Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x04 - "No Win Scenario"

[ToddCam]

When I drink alcohol, it's usually vodka, as it has little discernible taste. I find most alcohol, especially beer, tastes putrid. I'm also not a fan of the feeling of being made less intelligent it gives me, and the smell of beer triggers bad memories of my childhood.

I'm not a big fan of marijuana either, especially as smoking makes me feel like I'm suffocating, which is how my mom died, but I've tried edibles. They taste terrible, and they are intense. My two experiences included collapsing to the ground overwhelmed with grief, and the second time freaking out thinking I was having a stroke but then I was okay enough to play video games through muscle memory.

 

[Lord Garth]

The one thing I find pretty amusing:
This is essentially a TOS movie, with the TNG cast.

Now, I did like the TOS movies a lot more than the TNG movies (or the nuTrek movies).

But still it's pretty weird a spin- off of TNG feels nothing like TNG or the TNG movies, but goes full 80s TOS movie

This is exactly what I wanted. You should've seen me in the thread for the first episode. I was having a blast. Probably the most fun I ever had in an episode thread.



Except for DSC Season 5 next year, this going to be my last hurrah too. Unless they do a Titan series. And what a way to go out. Going out in style!

 

[El Maestro]

They seem to be ignoring the Nexus fantasy Picard had of a family life in Generations certainly in their portrayal of Picard. And Insurrection would've been a useful explanation for Beverly's senior fertility, or even a reference to Riker taking Thad there to try to cure him, but that's ignored too.

Crusher: I wanted him to know you, but then refugees from Kalara V, angry about Romulan relocation, kidnapped you and held you for nine days. Then I tried again, but this time two Reman assassins intercepted the ship in the Donatra sector and held a disruptor to your head. Then only days later, Starfleet asked you to negotiate with the praetor and a photon grenade detonates meters from you.

Although they have no problem in referencing Nemesis by having Crusher taking the understandable chaos after Picard killed Romulan praetor Shinzon out of context to justify hiding Jack from him.

It’s pretty funny that NEM of all the TNG movies is given any acknowledgment considering what an absolute dumpster fire it was.

 

[gweeps]

It’s pretty funny that NEM of all the TNG movies is given any acknowledgment considering what an absolute dumpster fire it was.

With Data's death, they couldn't avoid it.

 

[Phily B]

Another thing I really enjoyed was them discussing the plan to escape in the ready room and then executing it like adults, the crew working together rather than quipping about the situation or making stupid comments constantly. Everyone was doing their job and acting professionally. It was great and added to the tense situation. Even when the Shrike came around there was no "Sir, there's that big sum bitch" or something, it was just all business and then they made jokes at the right moments.

It was great.

 

[Amaris]

It'll just be a troll. There's literally four votes below 6/10.

And you know, Trek fans. There's probably someone who thinks Yesterday's Enterprise is hokey and City on the Edge of Forever is silly melodrama.

Nah, I never assume it's a troll unless it's the same person always voting 1 each week. I mean, at that point it's hate watching. That said, this week I gave it a 4, and I'm certainly not trolling.

 

[eschaton]

First off, nobody drinks Budweiser or Coors for the taste. Nobody. When I was in my twenties, I bought the cheapest beer I could to get drunk. I didn't care about the taste. The various rot guts out there are produced for only one purpose, and it is not to titillate the taste buds.

Not that I ever drank that swill, but I've never understood how people get drunk on beer, unless it's the "reinforced" type that's 12% or something. I literally was unable to get more than tipsy off of normal ABV beer alone unless I mixed in a shot or two or something. I'd just get full/have to piss.

But I was never a super-heavy drinker, and I'm at the phase now in my life where I just want to have 1-2 beers from some microbrewery I've never heard of before - preferably ones that sound weird. As long as they aren't IPAs I mean.

 

[ToddCam]

You have never put on a brave face for people, ever? Never faked it for a friend? Ever?

Seriously, I swear people think the human mood state is one continuous stream and never fascilates or is faked by people in certain situations. I cannot be the only one, can I?

You're not.

I sometimes wonder about the rigidity in conception of fiction. Do we think these simulacra should, by their nature, be more adherent to arbitrary external rules? That they must adhere more closely to a preset range of behaviors? Real people don't have to adhere to 'preestablished canon' after all. The world just is. And if a person is doing something 'out-of-character' or misstate a fact, we can chalk it up to faulty memory or chemical imbalance or any number of reasons, but in fiction it's a universe-breaking obstacle.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The bald man said the fuck word.

 

[Tuskin38]

The bald man said the fuck word.

Why won't someone think of the children?!

 

[Orac Zen]

To be honest, I don't see the holodeck as having its own independent power source as being an issue. Let's not forget that Voyager (and all other late 24th Century starships) were equipped with holographic doctors, specifically for use in an emergency. So it kind of makes sense for the holographic systems to be separate.

This is an excellent point. I'd never thought of it that way and it makes great sense (better sense than the handwave in the episode, although that was a decent stab at explaining it).

 

[cooleddie74]

The bald man said the fuck word.

Wait a few more years for my hairline to get even thinner and I'll make Chris Rock look like a preschool teacher.

 

[ToddCam]

Remember when the power went out on Voyager and the illumination within the holodeck disappeared, but the light that composed the structures and black and white tinting somehow stayed on? Fun times.

 

[Blip]

I don't have any problem eating my words: I am entirely glad I gave this episode a chance after it looked last episode like we were going to end up with some abysmal character friction added purely for its own sake.

Plus, otherwise I never would have seen the new "Riker Maneouvre"

 

[USS Intrepid]

It'll just be a troll. There's literally four votes below 6/10.

And you know, Trek fans. There's probably someone who thinks Yesterday's Enterprise is hokey and City on the Edge of Forever is silly melodrama.

Disclaimer, one of those 1s was me, and it was an accident. My iPad screen scrolled suddenly and I hit the wrong damn thing. Was supposed to be a 10! Doh!

For the record, I loved it.

 

[valkyrie013]

Would have cost money, but a flashback showing the battle of wolf 359 when Shaw was talking would have been neat.

 

[JoseNoodles]

The bald man said the fuck word.

"Bald man said bad word" is the new "Jack Crusher's actor looks to old" is the new "The sets are too dark" is the new "There's too much crying on Discovery".

Also, a thought popped into my head a while ago. Much like Shaw, could Vadic have a connection to Wolf 359. Maybe she lost someone (like a child) and she blames Picard?

 

[Awesome Possum]

Now that we know people still smoke weed in the 25th century, we’re one step closer to Blazing Bev being canon.

 

[fireproof78]

Would have cost money, but a flashback showing the battle of wolf 359 when Shaw was talking would have been neat.

I'm sure some fan will do it and edit it in with his story and it will be hailed as "the new canon!"

 

[F. King Daniel]

"Bald man said bad word" is the new "Jack Crusher's actor looks to old" is the new "The sets are too dark" is the new "There's to much crying on Discovery".

Also, a thought popped into my head a while ago. Much like Shaw, could Vadic have a connection to Wolf 359. Maybe she lost someone (like a child) and she blames Picard?

Well, we know she lost a hand