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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

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On a small tangent, we get more info on the location of places mentioned previously in Star Trek on Riker's PADD. That's always nice to know where things might be placed in the Star Trek universe. Based on the chart, the Rython system is in the Beta Quadrant.
 
"So I felt so sad when I saw M'Talas Prime!"

How do you know that it was in the script and not added during post production? Maybe the team liked Matalas?
 
Is Beverly's son supposed to be in his early twenties? No offence to the actor, but couldn't they have got someone younger (someone who isn't in his mid-thirties), to play the part?

That's the big miystery. He looks too young for someone born after Nemesis. Maybe their mother-son relationship is more metaphorical than biological? Where did he get his british accent from?
 
Is Beverly's son supposed to be in his early twenties? No offence to the actor, but couldn't they have got someone younger (someone who isn't in his mid-thirties), to play the part?

Depends on if conception was when Bev was missing in Season 2 or Post Nemesis……I hate the whole Scrappy Doo concept if that’s indeed what they do here.

I hadn't even considered the season 2 absence as a possibility. The one season vanishing of Crusher was always such a strange bit of production weirdness, it's kind of delightful to imagine spinning new story out of it decades later.

Though, on Disco it seems they have the technology to remove the fetus basically right away and gestate it outside the body, so theoretically that might have happened with Crusher at any point during TNG.

I'll be curious to see what they go with. I like their instincts to keep a lid on this character in the pre-release publicity. It wasn't a huge shock or anything, but it was much more effective not knowing for sure who he was going into it.
 
"So I felt so sad when I saw M'Talas Prime!"

How do you know that it was in the script and not added during post production? Maybe the team liked Matalas?

If I was the showrunner, I’d look at the people doing the titles and say, “uh… thanks, I’m very flattered but no. Change it please.”
 
How do you know that it was in the script and not added during post production? Maybe the team liked Matalas?
I don't know when it was added, but I think it suggests bad things no matter what point of the process it was, or who thought of it first.

But, who knows -- I have no inside knowledge on this one, he seems cool in his interviews, maybe in his shoes I would be unable to resist the temptation to name a planet after myself too.

I'm just saying I've had this experience a few times in real life, and it was always a sign of trouble when a new boss would do that.

At least for the crew. Some of those bosses oversaw some great TV, so it did sometimes work out for the audience.
 
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It's not stranger than Alfred Hitchcock, George Lucas and Peter Jackson having cameos in their own movies. ;-)

So I directed three community theater shows about a decade ago. The first two shows I did, I appeared as a vocal cameo, recorded, offstage, never appeared onstage. My last show I directed was Frost/Nixon. I considered appearing in the show on video in cameo as a reporter interviewing David Frost. Best advice from a mentor I received was not to, that they felt my previous cameos were a little too much and doing an actual cameo would take it over the top into pure arrogance.

Now Terry did a cameo in Enterprise many years ago so that ship has sailed. Still, i maintain this was over the top.
 
As a fan of everything they're overdoing, they've overdone it.

It's still a good episode, and probably will work better as the season progresses, but for now, both "Remembrance" and last year's "Stargazer" were better openers.

There are a lot of strands laid down and it will probably come together. So there's no reason to think it will simply be an above average adventure.

I'll give it an 8 instead of a 7 because it tried so hard.
 
Colour me unimpressed. This episode suffered heavily from small universe syndrome. Picard talked about sending his painting to La Forge and a few hours later he coincidentally meets his daughter. Who coincidentally serves aboard the same ship as Seven. Which is supposed to be Riker's old ship, but totally refitted and now a Neo Constitution.

Well, at least I had two good laughs. The ridiculous pump gun phaser Vs machine gun phaser fight and the cheap 3D printed Rachel Garrett statue.

Why would anyone send a coded message to a more than 20-year old Enterprise-D communicator

What an odd way to refer to an almost 40-year old Starfleet communicator.
 
Captain Shaw - if Captain Jellico and Captain Styles had a child...



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PICARD: "This is utterly humiliating."

Captain Shaw is no fan! :guffaw:


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We've just got to have a Buck Rogers Easter Egg in this season somewhere!

"Power cell depleted." Yeah. Thanks Ray Gun for telling the intruders I'm out of bullets!

"I want a new adventure." Be careful what you wish for Jean-Luc.
 
Imagine having to pump-action an energy rifle before every shot. :rommie:

There’s a weird deification around Matalas that’s incredibly off-putting.
People love a hero. (And a villain, but enough about Berman.) The idea that Matalas has come in to save us from mediocre Trek excites a lot of people...even though his hand has been lightly on the rudder for some of the most mediocre Trek in recent years. ;)
 
Second, it was so weird how Picard jumped to assimilation as soon as Riker referred to him as "incapacitated", like that was the only time he had been incapacitated!

Maybe he was recalling what had happened. Surely he had read Riker's logs and been informed of what had happened while he was Locutus. He was recalling it when Riker mentioned it.
 
I enjoyed the episode. I gave it a 9. I think it really worked as a season premiere. It did the two things you want in a premiere: it teased us about the "mystery box" of the season and it got our main characters off to the adventure.

I really liked the Picard-Laris scene. I think it might be the best Laris scene of the entire series. I like how supportive and loving she was. She easily could have been upset or even jealous that Picard is going to run off to save an old flame. But she immediately understood and supported Picard. It was also nice to see that theme of past vs future. We've all been there where we are getting ready to move and we have to decide what to keep and what to throw away. I appreciated Picard insisting he was ready to move on while Laris was saying it's ok to hold on to the past. I feel this theme is going to be important this season.

I also noticed the strong parallels with Wrath of Khan. Both WoK and Picard S3E1 involve an old retired admiral doing an inspection of a new ship and then going off to answer a distress call. Both feature a doctor who was an old flame of the old retired captain. And I suspect the young guy is Crusher's son and assistant will be Picard's estranged son, another parallel with Wrath of Khan. And both feature an old nemesis coming back for revenge. Matalas purposely even reused the same opening with "In the 25th century".

I can also see why RMB compared this season to a Tom Clancy novel. The scenes with Raffi were a lot like a Clancy novel, where some CIA agent is undercover and following clues that will point to some big national security threat. The scene of the Starfleet building collapsing was shocking and a very effective way to hint at the seriousness of the threat.

Overall, I feel like Matalas did a good job of taking what he had to work with from S1 and S2 and putting his own touch to it. There was definitely a cinematic feel to it. And it felt like a TOS movie ala Wrath of Khan, Search of Spock or Undiscovered Country. And for one, like the "fan service". It connects us to past Trek that we love. Having the TNG theme play during the space dock scene was very nice. I also really like seeing a more naval and professional starfleet crew with the formal inspection, the crew at attention, the bridge crew really focused on their task. That also harkens back to the Nick Meyer's take on Starfleet that we saw in Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country.

I hope the mystery box will pay off and I hope the pacing and quality continue. If so, we could indeed get a really good season. Our TNG characters deserve a proper send-off.
 
When Picard said he wanted a new adventure to Laris, I couldn't help thinking she's such an awesome girlfriend that she's written a wild ride of a holoprogram for him to enjoy that's ultimately safe. And there are holographic references in the closing titles and season trailers, especially with Moriarty showing up. And now we're along for the ride, too!
 
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