Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[fireproof78]

This cutaway was also shown in an episode, and in HD. It clearly shows a Constitution much larger then 289m. If my memory serves me, at this she's about 433m in length, according to Drexler, who originally made it for the PC game "Captain's Chair" before reusing it for "In a Mirror, Darky". Is this not just as canon, as a blurry monitor, meant to be seen on late 60's televisions?

I may not always agree with Mr. Drexler but that has always been one of my favorite cutaways of the Enterprise. Beautiful work.

 

[Tuskin38]

Maybe the Federation has had TARDIS technology longer than we thought.

 

[Dukhat]

Is this not just as canon, as a blurry monitor, meant to be seen on late 60's televisions?

It is just as canon. Furthermore, new canon supersedes old canon, so the ship is about 433 meters.

(For the record, I've never agreed with the 'official' lengths for many Trek ships, including the TOS Enterprise, other than the Enterprise-D.)

 

[Tuskin38]

I may not always agree with Mr. Drexler but that has always been one of my favorite cutaways of the Enterprise. Beautiful work.

Though I'm pretty sure he still agrees with the 289 meter length for the TOS Connie, the size of the diagram was just a compromise to fit in the actual set heights.

 

[fireproof78]

Though I'm pretty sure he still agrees with the 289 meter length for the TOS Connie, the size of the diagram was just a compromise to fit in the actual set heights.

Oh, I'm sure he does and I use to follow his Blogspot (or whatever it was called) and I disagreed a lot. But, I don't have the eye for the technical any more in my Star Trek fandom, so his work, no matter how much I disagree, still is welcome expansion of something I find enjoyable.

 

[Ronald Held]

With some anomaly the universe scaled up by 433./289 since the late 24th century?

 

[Nerys Myk]

With some anomaly the universe scaled up by 433./289 since the late 24th century?

The guy in Starfleet's graphics department screwed up and no one caught it.
Those responsible have been sacked.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

What was the size?

900 feet (274 meters) long per the graphic as shown on screen in "The Enterprise Incident"

 

[Tuskin38]

900 feet (274 meters) long per the graphic as shown on screen in "The Enterprise Incident"

Too small.

 

[fireproof78]

900 feet (274 meters) long per the graphic as shown on screen in "The Enterprise Incident"

Readable?

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

Too small.

Arguably. Also contradicts the more widely accepted 947' number.

 

[Tuskin38]

Readable?

No

 

[fireproof78]

No

As I suspected from my memory. So, no weight to it and easily changed.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

Readable?

The 900' number may be a bit off. Using the provided scale, I measured it myself and came up with a hair over 950' (close enough to the widely accepted 947').

 

[fireproof78]

The 900' number may be a bit off. Using the provided scale, I measured it myself and came up with a hair over 950' (close enough to the widely accepted 947').

Good for you. Not stated on screen. Mutable.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

No

You can fairly easily make out "Scale in Feet" next to the yardstick, esp if you zoom in on it.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

Good for you. Not stated on screen. Mutable.

Graphic shown on screen. Immutable. Do the measurements yourself if you doubt my math.

 

[fireproof78]

Graphic shown on screen. Immutable. Do the measurements yourself if you doubt my math.

Illegible for the most part of its history. Completely mutable.

I don't care about your math. That's not the point. I see no reason to take it seriously, any more than door signs with Gilligan's island lyrics are part of the door and should be taken seriously.

It's not about math. It's about what i could know at the time.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Again, how tall is Spock in canon? Kirk? Pike? Does Saavik look like Kirsty Alley or Robin Curtis? Why does tech have one standard and flesh another?

 

[valkyrie013]

289m for over 50 years, from that graphic, to a size diagrams for production references, in movies, size references in shots, especially Enterprise, and 50 years of model kits.
If they wanted a bigger ship, should have made one and not called it Enterprise 1701. It'll always be 289 meters to me.

If anybody else wants a different size, have at it. Makes no difference to me what you believe.