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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

I have just thought of a really good ‘get out of jail’ card for the production team just incase they cannot get a (Seven of Nine :p) spin-off series, or if there is a delay in doing so.

My money is on delay. Paramount is already clearing $280m annually on the live action shows alone. Probably another 3 million or so over Lower Decks and Prodigy ($20k per minute of animation + paying the voice actors etc).

Stuck in the development wilds is at least the Section 31 show with Michelle Yeoh as the lead, and the Star Fleet Academy show which, if a 31st Century show as rumoured, will have Mary Wiseman at the helm in charge of the entire reformed Academy.

It's also fairly hard to see where it might fit during the year, as the main aim on Paramount's part is to keep a Trek show rolling almost all year round and to get us to keep those subscriptions up. It "only" costs $100/£82 a year, so needs a fair few of us pretty much permenantly subscribed to make it profitable. Would we see more audience fracutre? Fans tiring as we're now seeing with Marvel? It's a very hard thing for them to consider as well. Kurtzman's strategy has been to approve fairly radically different shows to appeal to different audiences. Which so far seems to work pretty well.

Kurtzman himself apparently has roadmap somewhere in his office/the Trek unit since 2020 which runs to 2027, if we go by the 7 season format for Trek shows we normally get, then Discovery's final season will come in 2025, meaning new shows would have to fill in that space.

So who knows, it might turn up quickly or it might be a few years down the road. Ryan and Hurd are only in their 50s and seem fine and fit compared to most people in their 50s I know, so its not like a couple of years is going to make them suddenly too old to do the roles.
 
The streaming environment has also gotten very tough recently with streamers cutting even successful shows and cancelling new shows that were already in production. These shows are not cheap to make.
 
I liked the new scenes in the trailer with Lore and Moriarty. Geordi seems to be having grudges about what happened at mars. I'm interested about Who some of the new Characters are like Titan's Captain and Vadic's back ground. Also Deanna talking about dark dangerous feelings on the ship is a all about too.
 
My money is on delay. Paramount is already clearing $280m annually on the live action shows alone. Probably another 3 million or so over Lower Decks and Prodigy ($20k per minute of animation + paying the voice actors etc).

Stuck in the development wilds is at least the Section 31 show with Michelle Yeoh as the lead, and the Star Fleet Academy show which, if a 31st Century show as rumoured, will have Mary Wiseman at the helm in charge of the entire reformed Academy.

It's also fairly hard to see where it might fit during the year, as the main aim on Paramount's part is to keep a Trek show rolling almost all year round and to get us to keep those subscriptions up. It "only" costs $100/£82 a year, so needs a fair few of us pretty much permenantly subscribed to make it profitable. Would we see more audience fracutre? Fans tiring as we're now seeing with Marvel? It's a very hard thing for them to consider as well. Kurtzman's strategy has been to approve fairly radically different shows to appeal to different audiences. Which so far seems to work pretty well.

Kurtzman himself apparently has roadmap somewhere in his office/the Trek unit since 2020 which runs to 2027, if we go by the 7 season format for Trek shows we normally get, then Discovery's final season will come in 2025, meaning new shows would have to fill in that space.

So who knows, it might turn up quickly or it might be a few years down the road. Ryan and Hurd are only in their 50s and seem fine and fit compared to most people in their 50s I know, so its not like a couple of years is going to make them suddenly too old to do the roles.
DSC will probably have seven seasons with the sixth in 2024 and the seventh split up between 2025 and 2026. Some shows are prone to having a split final season and, for some reason, I get the feeling that DSC will be one of them. I have nothing to base this on other than an instinct.

I think they're waffling on PIC Season 3 really being the end because they have nothing else. So maybe they'll come out with a new show after that, but I think it's essentially going to be "PIC Season 4", even if they call it something else.

They'll keep SNW going in perpetuity.

If the Star Trek shows are anything like Marvel, "Phase 1" will end in 2026 and "Phase 2" will begin in 2027, if they continue on.

If Tilly's a regular again in DSC Season 5, then I think they won't be doing the SFA series.

These are all my best guess.
 
DSC will probably have seven seasons with the sixth in 2024 and the seventh split up between 2025 and 2026. Some shows are prone to having a split final season and, for some reason, I get the feeling that DSC will be one of them. I have nothing to base this on other than an instinct.

I think they're waffling on PIC Season 3 really being the end because they have nothing else. So maybe they'll come out with a new show after that, but I think it's essentially going to be "PIC Season 4", even if they call it something else.

They'll keep SNW going in perpetuity.

If the Star Trek shows are anything like Marvel, "Phase 1" will end in 2026 and "Phase 2" will begin in 2027, if they continue on.

If Tilly's a regular again in DSC Season 5, then I think they won't be doing the SFA series.

These are all my best guess.

I suspect you're right on Disco, while Matalas has said he'd love to stay in the 25th Century and likely has a folder full of ideas it will really boil down to how Ruthless Paramount is feeling about its streaming service and if others are willing to pay for some Trek shows continuation (outside of the US, Amazon bought distribution rights). So its wether the hype will match a willing audience and streaming figures to say continued investment in that sort of show is worth it.

SNW has a ticking clock with a little leeway, the first season being ten years before Pike's accident. So we'll likely see that run another 7 seasons as well. If anything with the way its been a huge hit means that show is definitely safe for the forseeable.
 
I don’t think there’s anything saying a Trek series can only go for seven seasons.

Ever watched a show which is clearly reaching for ideas? It's always an awful, awful mess. if you let them run long enough then it becomes this strange, shambling zombie like Supernatural, where its smaller and smaller conventions now even boast a panel and Q&A session with... the actors body guard who mostly reminisces about other incidents when the show was bigger.
 
Ever watched a show which is clearly reaching for ideas? It's always an awful, awful mess. if you let them run long enough then it becomes this strange, shambling zombie like Supernatural, where its smaller and smaller conventions now even boast a panel and Q&A session with... the actors body guard who mostly reminisces about other incidents when the show was bigger.
Perhaps older shows, but nowadays with shorter seasons on streaming shows there is more potential for more seasons without that zombie virus striking at Season 8.
 
I don’t think there’s anything saying a Trek series can only go for seven seasons.
I agree with that, but I think they'll go the distance with DSC but no more...

... unless they don't have another Trek series to fill its slot.

I think SNW is more likely to break seven seasons than DSC. It's better-received and they'll go with it until they run out of ideas. They'll slow the timeline waaaayyyy down to keep it going if they have to.

Bear in mind I like DSC better than SNW, but that's the way I see it.
 
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The economics of the current situation are not great. If they put a freeze on new shows it wouldn't surprise me, or even really disturb my day to day.

probably the best think going for trek is that it’s on paramount plus and then pretty much just have Trek and the Sheridan shows. The trek show that seems to have done the worst viewer wise just based on the daily top 10 is Prodigy - I wouldn’t be surprised if that one doesn’t continue past season 2. The others are typically at or near the top when they are airing new episodes and even for a time after.
 
I dunno that I could see any of the nu-Trek shows going past 7 seasons. But it’s all up to the leads. Disco and SNW will run as long as SMG and Mount are up for it.
 
They’ll run as long as it makes fiscal sense to do so. The moment the shows salaries are too high or the licensing fee becomes too exorbitant, they’ll end the shows. It doesn’t matter about the leads or the perceived internet popularity if a show goes 1, 4, 7, 10 or 25 seasons. It’s up to the bottom dollar.
 
Terry Matalas posted a BTS pic:

Just in case people think it is spoilery:

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We can see several system alerts. Aft and forward shield generators have no charge. Impulse drive is down. And inertial dampeners are critically low. Looks like the Titan-A is getting hit pretty hard.
 
Terry Matalas posted a BTS pic:

Just in case people think it is spoilery:

Fn-hIiTaUAAdh56


We can see several system alerts. Aft and forward shield generators have no charge. Impulse drive is down. And inertial dampeners are critically low. Looks like the Titan-A is getting hit pretty hard.
Looks like what we saw way earlier but now the ship is revealed.
Should call it the Titanic!
 
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