What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Orville season 3 > SNW season one

 

Good LORD they're delightful!

 

I'll say the theme song is better than SNW, but the visuals for both themes are astounding. SNW edges out slightly for me because of Pike's voiceover. I didn't realize how much I really missed hearing "Space, the final frontier..." until SNW started.

 

TOS is a five-season show followed by six movies. The last two seasons looked very 2-D.

TNG is a 10-season show with four movies in-between the seventh and eighth seasons. At least two of those last three seasons are pretty controversial.

 

I don't think Daniel was referring to the theme music, considering he specified the season.

 

I see it now.

I still stand by what I said, though.

 

here's what I think is a controversial opinion. I like the Barclay episodes of Voyager. That includes Life Line.

 

Does that statement include "INSIDE MAN"?

Because that was just a terrible episode.

And "ENDGAME"? Also terrible.

"AUTHOR, AUTHOR"... meh.

(I do agree that "PROJECTIONS", "PATHFINDER", and "LIFE LINE" were good.)

 

And that eighth season isn’t really all that controversial, aside from the final two episodes.

 

I actually liked nine of PIC Season 1's ten episodes. I cannot say the same for Season 2's quality.

 

I did as well. I feel that those complaining that PIC is dark and not utopian like TNG are missing the point. Especially when compared with the real world, about the same amount of time has passed between the final years of the Cold War and today as did between the launch of the Ent-D and the world of PIC S1 in universe. Neither reality is as optimistic about its future as it once was after being challenge by several events, and the show chose to meet where viewers are today. Likely learning from ENT premiering a few weeks after 9/11 and how the tone of that show clashed with how people felt then.

I didn’t mind the swearing of characters in PIC, and Admiral Clancy was right that the Federation did pass judgment on which species live or die. Its called the Prime Directive. And it made equal amount of sense that Picard had forgotten that in light of the supernova after being assigned to lead the rescue operation after being a defender of the Prime Directive for years. And while the show was set outside the Federation, adventure and exploration is a big part of Star Trek and that season delivered on that. Star Trek was due for some outside the box thinking anyways, so it gets a tip of the hat from me.

But I won’t ignore issued some had with the final couple of episodes. Narek does just disappear into thin air (apparently there was a scene of him being arrested by the Federation that was cut). The extradimensional synths should have simply rung the doorbell, as it were, and reopened the gateway on their own as it was their tech that was used to open it. And the copy and paste of the Inquiry class when facing down the Zhat Vash fleet was lazy. Although I’m happy they made up for it in the S2 premiere with a more diverse fleet, I’ll never understand why they never used the Galaxy class CG model they made for PIC in that scene and sprinkle in a few of them. It was right there and would have been a nice callback to Picard being rescued by that class of ship, along with Riker.

 

Oof! Yeah, a bit brassy there.

*snort!*

Perhaps (I don't know my Trek music like you do), but it seems a bit much for a main theme.

THAT needs to be on a tshirt!

Soooo adorable! It's been too long since I watched that.

 

So how long do you think SNW goes before Pike has his moment of history that he must do, the bit we glimpsed in Disco?

 

Ten years.

 

About six. SNW is now in 2259 and probably about to enter 2260 so we're looking at six years until the training ship accident that cripples him.

 

That sounds like a reasonable length of time and given we don't do 22 episode seasons any more... Sounds perfect

 

I still think SNW doesn't end with Pike's injuries. I think we'll see what happens to Pike after "The Menagerie". I'm calling it now.

 

I think I would love for the finale to be a bookend to The Menagerie, showing how the rest of Pike's crew was involved in the effort to bring Pike to Talos IV. Sort of like how Trials and Tribble-ations was set up, except you wouldn't actually have to use old clips as the characters are already being recast. Just recreate certain scenes with the new actors.

 

I do love how that episode in Disco tied into the old series.. It was near perfect and I liked the casting for Vina, that's also my controversial opinion for today

 

Here's one. I'd rather see a Prodigy Film than Yet Another Reboot. It's something they'd never do, but it would be so outside the box that they should. And there wouldn't be the pressure to make $500 Million or more.