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Okay, then I'm misremembering. But my point is still my point, minus that part of the point. :)

The holodeck was never shown to work the way we were told it worked. I'm trying to remember the first scene in Farpoint. I know there were at least two groups or were there three? (I forget when Riker met Wesley and I'm not looking it up.) At least two groups very far apart. And yet they still encounter the "far wall" and Data can throw a rock at it, implying that they can traverse the physical enclosure of the holodeck. It's big, but it's not that big.

I think they probably envisioned a more conventional "3D movie theater" but that went out the window when it became the "make a wish box" almost instantly. Even The Practical Joker's recreation room was able to dig holes in the floor and (because it's a holodeck) do things to become a death trap.

So sure, Take Me Out to the Holosuite is fine. (I just realized why I love that episode so much. It doesn't try to kill them or otherwise impair the ship!)
 
The holodeck was never shown to work the way we were told it worked. I'm trying to remember the first scene in Farpoint. I know there were at least two groups or were there three? (I forget when Riker met Wesley and I'm not looking it up.) At least two groups very far apart. And yet they still encounter the "far wall" and Data can throw a rock at it, implying that they can traverse the physical enclosure of the holodeck. It's big, but it's not that big.

I think they probably envisioned a more conventional "3D movie theater" but that went out the window when it became the "make a wish box" almost instantly. Even The Practical Joker's recreation room was able to dig holes in the floor and (because it's a holodeck) do things to become a death trap.

So sure, Take Me Out to the Holosuite is fine. (I just realized why I love that episode so much. It doesn't try to kill them or otherwise impair the ship!)
I guess you could say there were three groups in that scene: Data's location, Riker walking into the holodeck and searching for him, and Wesley finding them later, though I don't think it was said if he was in there before Riker entered and was somewhere else in that forest or he entered after Riker did. (Riker tried to warn him about the loose rock because he encountered it himself, but was too late and Wesley fell in the water.)
 
Then I'd still have more than Harry.
I actually have the hollow pip that he would have gotten had he won the trivia that night so long ago. :lol:

(Garrett did give me a good run for my money at the end, with both of us getting each question right until he got the last one wrong and I was able to answer it. The man knows his TREK pretty well, and it was a lot of fun. He's great with fans too, so if you ever do get a chance to meet him, go for it.)
 
(I just realized why I love that episode so much. It doesn't try to kill them or otherwise impair the ship!
DS9 almost entirely avoided ever doing that hoary TNG holo-cliché. The only time they came close was Our Man Bashir, and although they did the "safeties off" routine, Bashir and Garak were free to leave the holosuite to save themselves at any time. (Though of course they did have a pretty good reason to stay. ;)) It's the only time in the whole series run that they did that kind of holo-ep.
 
DS9 almost entirely avoided ever doing that hoary TNG holo-cliché. The only time they came close was Our Man Bashir, and although they did the "safeties off" routine, Bashir and Garak were free to leave the holosuite to save themselves at any time. (Though of course they did have a pretty good reason to stay. ;)) It's the only time in the whole series run that they did that kind of holo-ep.
And strictly speaking, it's not truly a 'holodeck gone wrong' episode because the holosuite was working correctly. It was simply using the physical "files" of Sisko, Dax, Kira, Worf, and O'Brien as characters in the program.

That's why it was so genius! It turned the trope to exactly its opposite while still skirting that line of being the trope.

Quite possibly the most fun episode in the entire franchise. (At the very least, is a strong contender for that spot against episodes like "TRIALS AND TRIBBLE-ATIONS", "THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES", "wej Duj", "BADDA-BING, BADDA-BANG", "A PIECE OF THE ACTION", "Qpid", "BRIDE OF CHAOTICA!", and a few others.)
 
DS9 almost entirely avoided ever doing that hoary TNG holo-cliché. The only time they came close was Our Man Bashir, and although they did the "safeties off" routine, Bashir and Garak were free to leave the holosuite to save themselves at any time. (Though of course they did have a pretty good reason to stay. ;)) It's the only time in the whole series run that they did that kind of holo-ep.

Well their was the time Nog ended a holodeck program sitting down and fell on his ass.
 
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