Season 4 = Poor

[plynch]

Yeah, I'm just talking general public. I taught in public schools 30 years, you'd be surprised how many kids hadn't seen a SW! movie, much less Trek.

When WalMart had talking/soundfx greeting cards they had TOS ones. No Picard. Just sayin. Love what you love! But as far as what is known in the general culture, TOS had the huge 70s wave to cement in the hive mind.

 

[fireproof78]

you'd be surprised how many kids hadn't seen a SW! movie, much less Trek.

I really wouldn't. Most of my child clients don't recognize my references.

But as far as what is known in the general culture, TOS had the huge 70s wave to cement in the hive mind.

Good for it.

 

[Anthony60]

How is that evidence? This isn't the TOS or TNG section.

There is no Star Trek franchise without TOS. How about those "Questor Tapes" movies and spin offs? To quote Q, "Nothing happened".

 

[fireproof78]

There is no Star Trek franchise without TOS. How about those "Questor Tapes" movies and spin offs? To quote Q, "Nothing happened".

Star Trek should never be trapped by its past.

 

[Tuskin38]

There is no Star Trek franchise without TOS. How about those "Questor Tapes" movies and spin offs? To quote Q, "Nothing happened".

That still doesn’t prove your point.

 

[Anthony60]

That still doesn’t prove your point.

Okay, sure.

 

[Tuskin38]

Okay, sure.

Nothing about what you said has to do with current popularity. Popularity from the 60s to the 90s maybe, but not now.

 

[fireproof78]

It's the same old argument-recapture the warm fuzziness of a certain era with very little regard for the passage of time, cultural changes, or attitudes that made those shows popular.

 

[thribs]

It was incredibly slow. Its like the writers had one idea and spread it out for 13 episodes.
Frankly the entire story could have been done in a 2 parter.

 

[Tuskin38]

Frankly the entire story could have been done in a 2 parter.

No it couldn't have.

 

[thribs]

No it couldn't have.

Okay. Three parts.

 

[plynch]

No it couldn't have.

Y'know, I liked INS when it came out, b/c it was back to being more TNG-ish with a Trekkian moral dilemma. But, yeah, sure could have been a two-parter. Y'know, one of those things where you add up the halves and get basically a movie-length thing. Which we got.
Now, let the record show, I couldn't care less if anyone likes something or not. But --

If the only alternative to BAD GUY bent on destruction is "It's just a glorified episode," give me a glorified episode any day.

 

[Tuskin38]

I agree with insurrection feeling like a TNG episode stretched out.

 

[Vger23]

There is more to it than just plot content. For example, TVH and TMP are basically “glorified episodes” and, even worse, they share plot elements in common. But, they are both epic and cinematic in feel. They are well-crafted movies that come off as “major motion pictures” in their style, pacing and overall execution. INS just feels like a drab TNG episode in almost every way. It’s crafted like an episode.

 

[plynch]

I do understand that. The little perfect village they find on the planet looked really cheesy iirc.

 

[Vger23]

I can’t put my finger on what was less-than-optimal about S4, but as much as I didn’t find it objectionable…I also didn’t find it memorable in any way whatsoever either. As flawed as S1 and S2 were, they are definitely memorable and exciting. I revisit them both, and feel they had a lot of uniqueness and excitement to them that I hadn’t felt with Trek on TV for a while.

S4 was better than S3, but it didn’t approach the level of enjoyment I felt for S1 or 2.

Still fun, and I’m definitely looking forward to S5, but I hope it goes back to taking some risks and letting it hang out a bit more.

 

[donners22]

I just finished S4, and greatly enjoyed it. Not quite at the level of S1 & 2, but better than S3 and most other Trek seasons.

 

[ELCHawk]

I think season 2 was the best. However, I have enjoyed all 4 seasons. I know it is not popular on this site to be positive about Discovery, but I think it is a very good show. Is it my favorite Trek show? No. But, it is better than 90 percent of shows out there.

 

[RandyS]

I think season 2 was the best. However, I have enjoyed all 4 seasons. I know it is not popular on this site to be positive about Discovery, but I think it is a very good show.

That's an odd viewpoint. I don't like DISCOVERY at all and have been blasted for it repeatedly. I've even been wrongfully accused of racism because of it.

 

[Tuskin38]

I've even been wrongfully accused of racism because of it.

The only way you'd be accused of that is if you came off that way.