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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x10 - "The Stars at Night"

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Indeed. Of course, it's more interesting to me that in more enlightened future that some jobs are still regarded poorly. Though, even more interesting is the fact that, as established by Voyager, doing a tour in Starfleet ensured more access to more prestigious positions.

There's a weird assumption there's no such thing as competition in the future when people like competition.
 
There's a weird assumption there's no such thing as competition in the future when people like competition.
I mean, the language is that working in Starfleet gives "hands on experience" to get in to a particular institute. Perhaps competition isn't the right term, but certain experiences appear to be valued more than others, otherwise it's an odd limit.
 
For those who care, here's the list of Cali-class ships that showed up:
USS Alhambra
USS Anaheim
USS Burbank
USS Carlsbad
USS Cerritos
USS Culver City
USS Eureka
USS Fresno
USS Inglewood
USS Merced
USS Mount Shasta
USS Oakland
USS Pacific Palisades
USS Redding
USS Riverside
USS Sacramento
USS San Clemente
USS San Diego
USS San Jose
USS Santa Monica
USS Sherman Oaks
USS Vacaville
USS Vallejo
USS West Covina
What? No North Hollywood? :wah: ;)

A 9.

I liked it. Also liked the post credits scene.
 
Eh, I don't think so.
The Callie class being an 'embarrasement' for SF doesn't really make sense.
LD did take some 'liberties' in describing how SF works which doesn't mesh well into the whole notion of what UFP is... and this could be mostly for joke aspect.

I would surmise that the California class were indeed designed to handle second contact. Essentially 'follow up' tasks from previous missions (Mariner did mention that SF was bad on followup to begin with, so perhaps this was their way of learning from their mistakes).

Actually, regardless of how advance the Federation is, there will always be the problem of those within any organization that seeks to get their laurels by sand-bagging another agency. In this case, the California-class is not seen as a prestigious line of ships to be assigned to, thus you have an ambitious Admiral ready to replace it with something new: the Texas-class. Go figure.
 
10, quite enjoyable..
Though they waited THE WHOLE SEASON to introduce T'lyn.. Grrrrr.. Looks so cute in blue though!
Guess Picard makes a mint on selling wine!
 
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If the Cali class is looked down on so much by Starfleet, then how are the Miranda class regarded? I’ll be honest, I was kind of hoping they’d retire the Cali class and replace them with slightly newer vessels.
 
It's possible that either the unnamed places don't exist in the 24th century for whatever reason, there are other unnamed ones that simply didn't arrive in time because they were too far away or Mariner couldn't get ahold of them, or the other unnamed were destroyed or lost by whatever reasons.
 
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It’s actually not super surprising that T’Lyn didn’t appear until the very end. They were probably caught off guard that she would become a fan favorite and didn’t have a chance to write her in any earlier given how far ahead they work on the shows. I saw Newsome tweet out that she couldn’t remember what happened in eps 8 and 9 because she hadn’t worked on them in over a year.

pretty great finale. Once again they stuck the landing.

loved everyone cheering on Shax when he finally got to eject the core. His whole mini plot with Boimler was good too.

seeing all the different Cali crews was cool. Especially the bizzaro Cerritos crew and Mariners BFF from the Academy.

I’m sure there is ZERO political subtext to the Cali Class vs the Texas Class. Especially with the Texas Class being portrayed as trigger happy psychopaths.

if I had one nitpick it would be that Mariner felt a bit shoehorned in. Almost like the whole first part of her story in this ep was just to name drop Picard.

I’d like to go 10 for this one…so I will.

overall it was another fantastic season. Only the peanut hamper episode was a stinker.

It’s (IMO) still the best nu-Trek series live action or animated.
 
"Someone has to be the worst." Basically, there's got to be something at the bottom since not everything can be the top.

Again, that doesn't track.
In the future trek is supposed to be, being at the top or bottom shouldn't really exist.
You get different mission profiles sure, but as we saw, personell from Cali class ships can be promoted to other ships that do high profile missions.

It doesn't make sense that SF and UFP would discriminate against a whole design class and it's crew because of the mission profiles they do, because that kind of behaviour should have been left behind in the past.

Like I said, LD took liberties in how SF behaves, and I don't like the precedent it sets.

Also having people thinking 'there will always be people on the top and bottom ' is nonsense. That's a product of existing socioeconomic system...one that doesn't exist in Trek (so the conditions to manifest the same behaviour wouldn't occur), but I guess this is something that people tend to ignore.
 
Again, that doesn't track.
In the future trek is supposed to be, being at the top or bottom shouldn't really exist.
You get different mission profiles sure, but as we saw, personnel from Cali class ships can be promoted to other ships that do high profile missions.

It doesn't make sense that SF and UFP would discriminate against a whole design class and it's crew because of the mission profiles they do, because that kind of behavior should have been left behind in the past.

Like I said, LD took liberties in how SF behaves, and I don't like the precedent it sets.

Also having people thinking 'there will always be people on the top and bottom ' is nonsense. That's a product of existing socioeconomic system...one that doesn't exist in Trek (so the conditions to manifest the same behaviour wouldn't occur), but I guess this is something that people tend to ignore.

SF, and the UFP, exist on a meritocracy. Even going back to TOS, you had people going psychotic because they thought the system was unfair, or that they could buffalo their way to the proverbial top ("Court Martial", "The Ultimate Computer"). In this case, Buenamigo wanted to leave his mark on Starfleet, used questionable means to do so (such as using Rutherford's ego and technological know-how, targeting the California-class for failure vis-a-vis the reputation of the USS Cerritos, etc.), and then proceeded to go psychotic when the truth came out. So, the "precedence" was already there, but, in LDs, it was dialed up to ridiculous levels. However, having stated all that, the message of this episode is that STAR TREK is about the exploration of the human condition, not fancy ships or efficient computers. Yes, you have your top-tier Starfleet that has the better resources and manpower, but the mission of the crews of the California-class are just as important as any other member of Starfleet. And, like everyone else, they are not "programmed" to strive to be best at what they do: being explorers of the unknown. Buenamigo is just a means to illustrate this point.
 
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