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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x01 - "Grounded"
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This series is beyond me. I don't understand why so many enjoy it so highly and squee over so many aspects of it. I mean... Really? What about this is "good." I just see constant references, dumb humor, and loud fast-talking characters.
If you like it, fine, but I don't get what there is *to* like.
If you like it, fine, but I don't get what there is *to* like.
I like the characters.
Well some people like constant references, dumb humor, and loud fast-talking characters. Plus, Star Trek
Good is subjective. what you think is good isn't what other people think is good.
I'm terrible at explaining what I like. The show It doesn't bore me, it makes me laugh sometimes, that's why I keep watching.
You do know that people can have different tastes, right? Just because you don't like something doesn't make it of less value.
Personally i'm pretty lukewarm on Lower Decks, but i don't feel the need to come in here and shit on the coffee table of those who do enjoy it.
Plus, IDIC.
To me, the most appealing part of LDS is it has "heart." It's obvious the writers are not just huge Trek nerds, but love the...Trekkiest parts of it. Like Data's poem about his cat. The characters are all giant nerds who are really into their jobs and doing the best they can to be supportive to one another.
I believe I'm just as allowed to speak of my dislike for it as others are too speak of liking it. I mean, maybe YOU are shitting on the table of those who dislike? Whose shit and whose table is more important here?
The show is a chaotic mess of stupid humor (and I can like me some stupid humor. Even in Trek. Hell, I like episodes like Spock's Brain, Move Along Home, Profit and Lace, Up the Long Ladder) but this, for me, is just nonsense beating me in them head with GET! THE! REFERENCE?! HUH?!
LOOK! ANACHRONISTIC REFERENCE OR ALLUSION TO 21st CENTURY CULTURE! IT'S! FUNNY!!!
It's too much, not me. And liking it is one thing but so many speak of this like it's just the best ever put out by the franchise and...
Really?
Whatever. You have your feelings. I'll have mine. And we are BOTH allowed to express them.
You're the one who asked 'what about this is good' and it was implied by your whole post you don't understand why anyone would watch this show. My answer, people have different tastes. That's it. Why you couldn't ascertain that yourself, i don't know.
Let me ask a genuine question-why do you like Star Trek? Why do you participate in fan activities? Does it inspire a certain positive feeling in you? Like joy?
It's different for all people, but that joy is part of what draws people to Lower Decks. Is it quite hyperactive? Yes. Does it include a lot of references? Yes. It reminds me of current shows I watch with my kids to a degree. But, more than that it shows what I often saw in my friends in my fan group-fun fan excitement. Knowledge of random Trek trivia, different ships, a high degree of energy that younger me expressed at different places.
Has my energy level decreased? Yes. But, do I see the same joy for Trek in Lower Decks? Yes. And that joy is something that fans want, at least the people I knew as fans in real life. That has much of the draw for many. For me, it is the characters and their interesting dynamic and energy.
Ultimately, though, why does it need justification for people to find it "the best?"
Sure, but there are many ways of expressing subjective views. Yours tend to come off as attacking/mocking others for not sharing your view, which understandably attracts either an annoyed response or the ignore button.
You've made it plain that you don't like the show and don't get what others see in it, so coming in to state that again - not even making an effort to tie it to the episode (noting that this is a thread for episode discussion) - is not much of a contribution. Indeed, one might think it's trying to provoke precisely the reaction you're complaining about.
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It's supposed to be fun and the standard's for humor have changed significantly since the original series. I'm ex military, my style of humor would probably throw some of the folks on here into aneurisms, you can't make everyone happy. This appeals to the younger crowd that prefers the Family Guy and Rick & Morty style humor. Can and will the show do more serious stuff, probably. But for now it's just entertainment. Not every show has to be melodrama, crying and universe ending paradoxes, sometimes it can just be having fun scrubbing alien excretions off the hanger bay floor.
At first I thought "Couldn't anyone living on Earth simply just go in a holodeck and experience the first warp flight that way without having to go all the way to a theme park to do it?" And then I thought "Wait, this is a comedy show. I'm over-thinking it way too much. It's played for laughs. Best not to take it too seriously!"
Great episode.
Great episode.
Right now I'm craving some new Trek but, given my utter disdain for weekly release schedules on streaming platforms, I typically wait until a show is fully released before enjoying it in one sitting. Though right now I need a little light in my life, so I have to ask if episode 3.1 is the first in a two-parter or season long run of exonerating Captain Freeman, or if it's just a one and done episode I could watch to scratch my Trek itch and then wait until late-October to properly binge the season?
Weirdly, I suggest overthinking it more because it's some kind of fascinating ideas from the idea this is the equivalent to Colonial Williamsberg. Which is to say this is a VERY OLD theme park and not a particularly successful one by the looks of it with its lame playground and food stands. This is a place that undoubtedly predates holodecks and kinda lame even in-universe.
A place kept in business by school trips and being state heritage.
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