Scenes that make you cringe....

[Forbin]

Gamesters of Triskillion is pretty cringey front to back, but the worst moment is that when Uhura's drill thrall brings her dinner to her cell, and tells her he's been selected for her, he then proceeds to attempt to rape her.
And then Kirk mispronounces her name when he yells "What's happening to Lt Yoo-hura?"

 

[Vale]

Dang, so many I've consciously tried to block...

Thankfully, there's always that one eternal gem that's simply impossible:

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*shudddddddddder*

And now, you're stuck with that in auto-loop forever too.

As soon as I saw the thread title this is immediately what came to my mind. Cringey even by TNG season one standards.

 

[Vale]

Also – Ira Graves talking about women in TNG: "The Schizoid Man". Okay, so it's part of his character that he's a lecherous misogynistic asshat, but holy crap.

 

[Captain's Coffee]

I have a couple more.

1. The scene in TNG's The Perfect Mate where we learn about Kriosian female empathic metamorphose. I've never nope'd out of an episode faster. To this day, I've not gone back and finished that one. I don't care if the episode doesn't glorify it; the mere concept makes my skin craw.

2. The scene in TNG's Cost of Living where a (presumably?) naked Lwaxana and Alexander are chilling in a mud bath, while a hologram of a naked alien lady is gyrating in from of them.

 

[Vale]

Every Geordi and Leah scene in "Galaxy's Child." Geordi is just gross in the entire episode.

I've just rewatched "Aquiel" and Geordi's a bit creepy in that too. Going through someone's personal logs and falling in love with them when he doesn't even know they're still alive, and then pursuing a relationship with them when it turns out they are... yikes.

 

[Farscape One]

Actually, they thought she was dead, which was why he was going through the logs. They found her blood on the deck, and until the Klingons brought her, everyobe thought she was dead.

I can't fault Geordi here.

 

[DonIago]

^I'm pretty sure that's what Vale was saying: Geordi crushes on someone he doesn't know to be alive.

 

[maneth]

I like The Changeling otherwise, but the part where Nomad essentially shorts Uhura's brain out because it can't handle the jumble of thoughts in her mind, and someone on the bridge says "she's a woman," that really made me cringe.

 

[Vale]

^I'm pretty sure that's what Vale was saying: Geordi crushes on someone he doesn't know to be alive.

Exactly. And when she does turn out to be alive, rather than immediately adopting a professional distance he continues to crush on her at close range.

 

[Forbin]

A lesser cringe for me on Aquiel is that they put a funny forehead on that lovely young woman. Why? WHY??

 

[Weyoun 251]

What??? I love that scene.

If we’re talking about ST:V, I’d go with Scotty’s “I know this ship like the back of my hand….THUD”. That was pretty bad.

See, I always loved that scene - so cocky about it all

 

[Weyoun 251]

"I'm with Starfleet, we don't lie!"

Robert

I find this more forgiveable as Wesley is meant to be in his early to mid teens and it isn't uncommon for people that age to hyper idealise things (maybe these days be extra cynical instead but either way it is about taking things to the nth degree) so I can see a certain earnestness to it

 

[Farscape One]

"I'm with Starfleet, we don't lie!"

Robert

Except he did. At Starfleet Academy. So did his other Nova Squad folks.

And so did Captain Ronald Tracey.

And Captain/Admiral Erik Pressman.

And Lt. Cmdr. Ben Finney.

And Lt. Paris before he was dismissed.

And Commander/Admiral Mark Jameson.

And Admiral Kennely...

 

[Oddish]

Also – Ira Graves talking about women in TNG: "The Schizoid Man". Okay, so it's part of his character that he's a lecherous misogynistic asshat, but holy crap.

It was the 1980's, only a generation past the era of June Cleaver and those like her. The threshold of what was considered male chauvinism was higher.

^I'm pretty sure that's what Vale was saying: Geordi crushes on someone he doesn't know to be alive.

Well, it's established that Geordi can't get anywhere with live women...

I find this more forgiveable as Wesley is meant to be in his early to mid teens and it isn't uncommon for people that age to hyper idealise things...

Well said.

 

[Vale]

It was the 1980's, only a generation past the era of June Cleaver and those like her. The threshold of what was considered male chauvinism was higher.

Granted, but I like to think that the line "women aren't people!" might have raised eyebrows even in the 1960s.

 

[at Quark's]

Granted, but I like to think that the line "women aren't people!" might have raised eyebrows even in the 1960s.

The vibe I'm getting from the episode as a whole is that this Ira Graves character is not just a 'lecherous misogynistic asshat', but at least borderline deranged as well, even if he's also a genius. Another example of it would be his grandiose sense of ego (even beyond that of Dukat, I'd say), or his sense of entitlement to take Data's body. Whether he always was like that or that it mostly came about by his late-stage disease (which attacked the nervous center and the brain, as noted by Selar) is another matter. I think statements such as the one above also should be taken within that context.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

Tom Paris's OOC gagga-ness over Kes in "Before and After," an otherwise fascinating episode. (No, not Harry marrying his friend's daughter; falling for the worst girl possible is completely in character for Harry.)

Kira endangering the O'Brien's baby in "The Darkness and the Light," after she volunteered to be surrogate to save his life! Worse, she gives birth in the very next episode anyway! Why couldn't the show just place "Darkness and the Light" after Kira gave birth? They literally just had to wait one episode!

 

[Farscape One]

The point of "THE DARKNESS AND THE LIGHT" was Silaran was targeting his targets only... no civilians were to be harmed, like what happened to him in the attack by the Shakaar Resistance.

With Kira being pregnant, it drove the point home even more so because of that last Act dialogue between him and Kira.

If this and "THE BEGOTTEN" were produced in reverse, I'm not sure it would be quite as effective, particularly the idea that he was about to open her up without anasthetic. I would argue it made better sense that these two were produced as is.


Tom head over heels for Kes, I didn't mind it because he was attracted to her long ago. Plus, Kes probably helped Tom get over B'Elanna's loss. Love connections have been made in real life that way.

 

[Oddish]

Tom Paris's OOC gagga-ness over Kes in "Before and After," an otherwise fascinating episode. (No, not Harry marrying his friend's daughter; falling for the worst girl possible is completely in character for Harry.)

I don't see Harry/Linnis as a worse pairing than either Neelix/Kes or Tom/Kes. It can certainly be argued that Ocampans and humans shouldn't get romantic at all, due to their vast disparity in lifespan, but we should go all in or all out.

Tom head over heels for Kes, I didn't mind it because he was attracted to her long ago. Plus, Kes probably helped Tom get over B'Elanna's loss. Love connections have been made in real life that way.

Very true. And Kes is a person who is very empathetic and compassionate, exactly what Tom would have needed. Despite my long adherence to a fandom that believed people had One Twoo Wuv, I believe that many people often have multiple chances at happiness. In this AU, Tom was one of them.

 

[Vger23]

Anything having to do with fucking Badgey or the weird dog Tendi created from LD.