Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"

[XCV330]

Glad you enjoyed it! From the Journey's perspective, it was just composed. Early Trek fandom was remarkable.



What did "The Cage" copy?

(this is what I consider a "copy")

completely off-topic but goddamn Amazing Stories always had good covers. While Galaxy, F&SF, and Analog toned it down, Amazing just kept going full throttle, not ashamed of its pulpiness. As a kid I loved the magazine in the 80s during the wild TSR years almost for the covers, alone.I can't even remember how many rejected mss I sent to them hoping to be an Amazing writer.

 

[jackoverfull]

Maybe for you. But if you read a lot of responses to the episode, plenty of people cared for the character and the manner of death has spurred a lot of discussion.

most of that discussion about how they got rid of the only disabled actor so soon after having touted it so much. Not unlike they got rid of grey in discovery and don’t seem to know what to do with adira anymore.

it's a real example of the horrible level of writing of the on the show...

Skin of Evil is a pretty bad episode, but that’s beyond the point. Over 30 years later we’re still taking about Tasha, 30 years from now I doubt anyone will remember this guy.

And as far as the character of Sela, please. The majority of even hardcore TNG fan reaction has been:

"Terrible character, poorly written and poorly acted..."

uhm..no.

You care so much about the character you can't even spell her name correctly. Her name is:
Tasha Yar, not "Tasher yar" ( and yes I thought you might have had a typo there, but you use the exact same spelling later in your post that I'm quoting here.

Picking on someone that obviously has issues spilling stuff correctly (not only her name), whatever the reason, won’t bring you much.

Seeing as how I don't see those deaths as earned I don't see how. Characters died, and I felt bad. I didn't need long history to feel bad because someone died.

because the ones you mention are random guys people are not supposed to care about. Hemmer was supposed to be a regular/semi-regular and his death was supposed to be a big emotional moment.

Ariam’s death was head and shoulders above Tasha’s death. Better handled on all levels: acting, writing and direction.

lol, it was one of the lowest points of season two.

 

[Neopeius]

completely off-topic but goddamn Amazing Stories always had good covers. While Galaxy, F&SF, and Analog toned it down, Amazing just kept going full throttle, not ashamed of its pulpiness. As a kid I loved the magazine in the 80s during the wild TSR years almost for the covers, alone.I can't even remember how many rejected mss I sent to them hoping to be an Amazing writer.

During the post-Goldsmith era, they started recycling all their old (pulp era) art. I don't know yet when the practice stopped (since I'm still in 1967).

You can read our current coverage of Amazing by John Boston, who's been a BNF since the early 60s!

 

[XCV330]

During the post-Goldsmith era, they started recycling all their old art. I don't know yet when the practice stopped (since I'm still in 1967).

You can read our current coverage of Amazing by John Boston, who's been a BNF since the early 60s!

thanks. I will check that out.

 

[Nerys Myk]

lol, it was one of the lowest points of season two.

Strongly disagree. They did a better job of fleshing out Ariam's character and history in that one episode than TNG did with an entire season of Tasha. Even as a background player, Ariam was more interesting than Tasha as main cast.

 

[fireproof78]

because the ones you mention are random guys people are not supposed to care about. Hemmer was supposed to be a regular/semi-regular and his death was supposed to be a big emotional moment.

And yet I do care...so which is it? Death only matters when it's a character I connect with or death has to be earned because the character has a long history with the crew?

Because the framing of the episodes in question are that these random crewmembers and their death's have impacts upon the crew. And therefore have an impact upon me as an audience member.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That is far from reality if anything airim death just make discovery take a bigger nose dive. Also level of acting. Lol. No

It's my opinion. "Reality" isn't a factor. And, once gain this is my opinion, it was one of the better DISCO episodes. Crosby just is not that good of an actress. That she can be out acted by two women buried under a ton of prosthetics and regulated to the background of most episodes speaks volumes.

I cared more about Tasha than Airiam, sadly. For all Denise Crosby's weaknesses as a performer and what the writers gave her to do she at least had a lot to do during her one season in the lead cast.

Airiam, well, just wasn't so fortunate.

I never missed Tasha. Never once thought, gee I wish Tasha was still on the show.

Hemmer and Horak on the other hand, yeah it would be great if they were still on the show. Great actor and great character. But his death was good too.

 

[Tuskin38]

Hemmer and Horak on the other hand, yeah it would be great if they were still on the show. Great actor and great character. But his death was good too.

Horak is coming back.

 

[Noname Given]

Noname Given said: ↑
You care so much about the character you can't even spell her name correctly. Her name is:
Tasha Yar, not "Tasher yar" ( and yes I thought you might have had a typo there, but you use the exact same spelling later in your post that I'm quoting here.

Picking on someone that obviously has issues spilling stuff correctly (not only her name), whatever the reason, won’t bring you much.

Sorry, but no. Valden was also claiming Tasha Yar was a VERY MEMORABLE character to himself and other...yeah, so memorable he can't even remember the character's name properly AS SPELLED OUT ON THE TNG SEASON ONE CREDITS in 25 episodes.

So yeah, spare me the faux outrage here.

 

[F. King Daniel]

This episode confirms that the Romulan Commander would consider anyone a friend in another life.

He sees his postman walking away after dropping off a parcel and is like, "In another life, I could have considered you a friend."

 

[fireproof78]

This episode confirms that the Romulan Commander would consider anyone a friend in another life.

He sees his postman walking away after dropping off a parcel and is like, "In another life, I could have considered you a friend."

He's probably pretty lonely on Romulus.

 

[Nerys Myk]

He's probably pretty lonely on Romulus.

On Romulus you have two sets of friends. Your true friends and a group of people you’d willingly sacrifice.

 

[F. King Daniel]

*gives random stranger directions*

"Ah, in another life, I could have considered him a friend"

"NOBODY LIKES YOU TIMOTHY!"

 

[fireproof78]

*gives random stranger directions*

"Ah, in another life, I could have considered him a friend"

"NOBODY LIKES YOU TIMOTHY!"

That hurts.

 

[XCV330]

*gives random stranger directions*

"Ah, in another life, I could have considered him a friend"

"NOBODY LIKES YOU TIMOTHY!"

it would be funny to just start randomly telling people one works with "In another life I could have considered you a friend" and record the awkward reactions.

 

[Noname Given]

On Romulus you have two sets of friends. Your true friends and a group of people you’d willingly sacrifice.

There's a third group: Those who'd willingly sacrifice you to further their goals.

 

[fireproof78]

There's a third group: Those who'd willingly sacrifice you to further their goals.

Count Dooku, is that you?

 

[Noname Given]

Count Dooku, is that you?

Hey! Never cross the IPs.

 

[jackoverfull]

Strongly disagree. They did a better job of fleshing out Ariam's character and history in that one episode than TNG did with an entire season of Tasha. Even as a background player, Ariam was more interesting than Tasha as main cast.

not for me. She pretty much stayed in background for over a year, was explored a bit and then died stupidly.

And yet I do care...so which is it? Death only matters when it's a character I connect with or death has to be earned because the character has a long history with the crew?

Because the framing of the episodes in question are that these random crewmembers and their death's have impacts upon the crew. And therefore have an impact upon me as an audience member.

You care for those random redshirts?

Sorry, but no. Valden was also claiming Tasha Yar was a VERY MEMORABLE character to himself and other...yeah, so memorable he can't even remember the character's name properly AS SPELLED OUT ON THE TNG SEASON ONE CREDITS in 25 episodes.

So yeah, spare me the faux outrage here.

look at their post: tasha’s name is hardly the only thing spelled incorrectly.

 

[fireproof78]

You care for those random redshirts?

Yes. There are some episodes I skip because of how it hits, but the ending of Balance of Terror always hits hard.