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Spoilers Season 3 Trailer

Who would have thought it… Her Imperial Majesty, Mother of the Fatherland, Overlord of Vulcan, Dominus of Kronos, Regina Andor, Philippa Georgiou Augustus Iaponius Centarius time jumped thanks to the Guardian of Forever in to Seven of Nine’s past! Georgiou might have mentored Seven after becoming a prominent figure within the Fenris Rangers. It would be a similar relationship to Burnham and Georgiou… Seven needed someone to fallback on as a ‘mentor’ when Janeway let her down you see. I would love to see Michelle Yeoh in a Seven of Nine spin-off that *does not* include section 31… though she could now be a temporal agent. Oh, I thought that I was in the fan fic forum, I replied to the wrong thread. Sorry, I’ll post it anyway though. :devil:

Seven could be torn between Janeway and Georgiou one day…

BTW, I *know* that Michelle Yeoh would be up for this. Someone on the production staff should ask her to come back… :D

*** Swoon ***

:luvlove: :adore:

Just when I thought things couldn't get better (this ranks up there with the Seven/Erica Ortegas teamup trending on Twitter :adore: ).

Alternate timeline, anyone? :devil:
 
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But let's not be kidding ourselves: When we think of the best TNG had to offer, it's comprised of maybe 20% of all episodes / scenes. At best. The rest suffers (sometimes greatly!) in quality due to, among others, cringy dialogue; even for the time tone deaf handling of certain societal topics; derivative stories; predictable, repetitive plots; one dimensional characters with only few exceptions; uninspired and very tame sci-fi concepts...

Everyone's mileage may vary, of course, but I thought this snippet worth pushing back on. On several levels. First, I think your 20/80 categorization is too simplistc. Second, for me, I'd say you have your values reversed.

I kind of look at thing in tiers. By your reckoning 20% of a 26/22/24 episode season yields 4-5 classics (Trek at it's best) per season. I think, on average, that is in the ballpark. Though I must say, some of the best Trek seasons (TOS1, TNG 3-5, DS9 4-6, VOY4, ENT4) are gonna come in significantly over, while some others will come in under.

But my bigger issue is with the other 80%. For me, while I'll admit there are cringeworthy moments from time to time, and some clunker episodes (Tom & Harry in the holodeck, again), I enjoy the non-classic episodes just fine. "Sub Rosa", "The Outrageous Okona", and "Code of Honor" bother me not one iota (though great episodes they are not, well below average). And I enjoy most average episodes a lot.

Largely, I try to view the series as pieces from the time in which they were created. So some of the TOS stuff I write off as those were the days. Berman era gets less of a pass because it is more recent (35 to less than 20 years). Now, does it bother me that they always managed to stick the hot girl in a non-standard uni (Troi, Kes, Neris, Seven, T'Paul) while simultaneously claiming to represent a future of equality & progress? Yes, yes it did. But then again, Kirk's shirt seems to come off a lot. And sexy has always been a part of sci-fi. For better or worse. Though Seven & T'Paul were particularly egregious.

And Trek did make some progress. All the women were in short skirts in TOS. Just Troi in TNG out of uniform, and that got fixed eventually. Men in skorts in some scenes. At least all of Starfleet was standard by DS9. And T'Paul got out of her suit eventually.

Again, I tend to look at things that are dated on the shows as a testament to the progress we have made since 1966 (or 1987). And there has been a lot. Imperiled as much of it may be.

The tech advances are in one category. Floppy discs on a starship (or laptops) is no longer futuristic. So it does not bother me there ate now 3D printers & such on the Enterprise. The continuity has to give way there. But it is reflective of the tech progress, and is, in a way, reassuring.

And so are, to me at least, the dated social stuff. Girls can wear pants now. And be Captains. As can blacks. And even black women! LGBTQ folks are real and actually appear on the show as real people with real relationships. That isn't being overly woke in the new shows, it just reflects the progress we have made on those issues. It ain't woke, it's real. (Plus, Trek has always been woke, but that is another issue).

On the flip side, when I watch an episode from 1966 or 1987 and it is out of step with where we are now, I don't hold it against the show. I still enjoy it. And it, too, is a sign of progress I find reassuring. I don't cringe, or at least, not for that type of stuff.

Again, YMMV, which is fine. And I realize your critique was obviously broader than the social stuff. But I don't find 80% of Berman era Trek boring. And I thought there was a higher percentage of cringe in DISCO/PIC than any other Trek (save maybe early ENT).
 
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And Trek did make some progress. All the women were in short skirts in TOS. Just Troi in TNG out of uniform, and that got fixed eventually. Men in skorts in some scenes. At least all of Starfleet was standard by DS9. And T'Paul got out of her suit eventually.

As did Seven of Nine. :)
 
I am excited for S3.

As I was for S1 and S2. On average, I liked S1 better. Though the ending part with the magical do/anything tool the synthetics gave them was cringeworthy. But Data's sendoff made up for it.

I loved the return of Q & Guinan in S2. But not getting an explanation of how/why Q was dying did not sit well. And they were a little too loosey-goosey at times. And part of me thinks Picard would have gotten over this stuff long since. And I wish we'd have found out Raffi's issue sooner, she did not make sense for a while. And saying goodbye to Elnor, Rios, and Agnes hurts. But I think yhe wrap up was pretty darn good.
 
Also allegedly Grace Lee Whitney pushed for the skirts, but I don't know if that has ever been proven.

I’m pretty sure she’s quoted as saying that in the TOS book Eaglemoss/Hero Collector did last year. I’d have to go dig it out and look for sure but apparently she was very proud of her legs. The women were gonna wear pants just like they did in the two pilots.
 
So because they said Seven/Annika Hansen is a commander in Starfleet at the start of Season 3 makes me wonder if she's first officer the USS Enterprise-F.
 
Wasn't Worf XO to Data in the JJ relaunch comics? So bump him to Captain and then 7 as XO.

I could see some fun with that pairing

I really do hope Seven and Worf have screen time together, but

Terry Matalas has confirmed Worf is not captain of the Enterprise nor is a Commanding Officer of a ship when we first meet him in S3.

That being said, I do think Seven will be XO of whatever ship the TNG gang end up on.
 
I really do hope Seven and Worf have screen time together, but

Terry Matalas has confirmed Worf is not captain of the Enterprise nor is a Commanding Officer of a ship when we first meet him in S3.

That being said, I do think Seven will be XO of whatever ship the TNG gang end up on.

Ah fairs mate - guess we'll have to wait and see.

I am just picturing the two together a Worf has a FCesque moment of "Prepare for ramming speed! Maybe today is a good day to die!" followed by 7 giving it "The Klingons were better before all this death and honor bull - had we encountered your race 100 years before their distinctive intelligence and subterfuge would have greatly enhanced the collective"
 
I like what I've seen so far - not that it's much. But they all have a great look. And even though I wonder why Starfleet uniforms changed their style AGAIN, I have to say the leather jacket angle is a fresh one.
 
This "trailer" feels rather rushed/cheap. Like they're announcing a Lifetime movie.
That was my feeling as well........like they took some generic continuity shots of makeup and costuming.....spliced some dialogue over it and called it a day. I mean I GET that they want to play it close to the vest for now.......and I feel like there will be a legit teaser for Star Trek Day around 14 September.
 
I'm excited!



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Bugs me that after all his shit talking he's even allowed to be privy to anything behind the scenes or ahead of the general public..........
 
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