Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"

[blssdwlf]

It’s all the same universe, it’s just in a different medium.

Same macro? universe, yes. Easier (for me) to describe by series and their associated universe. But it would be an interesting thing to think that the Star Trek universe converted into flatworld for TAS seasons and then got restored. Only to revert back to it again for Lower Decks - assuming it's the same universe traversing different mediums.

 

[fireproof78]

Same macro? universe, yes. Easier (for me) to describe by series and their associated universe. But it would be an interesting thing to think that the Star Trek universe converted into flatworld for TAS seasons and then got restored. Only to revert back to it again for Lower Decks - assuming it's the same universe traversing different mediums.

Do you remember when we journey to flatworld?

Yeah...took me forever to get the wrinkles out of my uniform.

 

[Shikarnov]

This is the first 10/10 I have given since Trek returned a few years ago. If you would have told me then that it would have involved Kirk and one of my favorite TOS episodes I would have scarcely believed it.

I have been critical of Discovery and some of Picard but this first season has been great.

My first 10/10 as well. I think the last episode I enjoyed this much would have to be Babel One or maybe Terra Prime.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Coulda fooled me...

Takes two hands, so only half Jewish.

 

[DEWLine]

Screencaps gallery now online:

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sc-SNW1-10.php

Thanks.

Noting some details on the map: "Miri's World" shouldn't even be known as such yet, nor Fesarius, right? Too soon for that, I think?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Thanks.

Noting some details on the map: "Miri's World" shouldn't even be known as such yet, nor Fesarius, right? Too soon for that, I think?

The map game isn't very strong.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Spoiler from the series finale.

 

[Tuskin38]

Noting some details on the map: "Miri's World" shouldn't even be known as such yet, nor Fesarius, right? Too soon for that, I think?

They're just copying Star Charts/Stellar Cartography exactly, and have been doing that since Discovery Season 1. Only edits being planets they add.

 

[Neopeius]

Takes two hands, so only half Jewish.

Hahaha. Like the t-shirt says, "I'm not a full Jew. Just Jew-ish."

 

[Neopeius]

Same macro? universe, yes. Easier (for me) to describe by series and their associated universe. But it would be an interesting thing to think that the Star Trek universe converted into flatworld for TAS seasons and then got restored. Only to revert back to it again for Lower Decks - assuming it's the same universe traversing different mediums.

If it's the same universe, how come the Enterprise, the uniforms, and such all look so different from the way they were depicted in...

"Trials and Tribble-ations?"

 

[Nerys Myk]

If it's the same universe, how come the Enterprise, the uniforms, and such all look so different from the way they were depicted in...

"Trials and Tribble-ations?"

Fiction is mutable.

 

[DaveyNY]

If it's the same universe, how come the Enterprise, the uniforms, and such all look so different from the way they were depicted in...

"Trials and Tribble-ations?"

Yer eyes are fooling you.

 

[cooleddie74]

In-universe this is just how things look in 2259. But never forget that in-universe James Bond was Roger Moore in 1985 to defeat Max Zorin, Pierce Brosnan in 1986 to sneak into the Soviet Union with Alec Trevelyan and then he was Timothy Dalton in 1987 for the General Pushkin assassination plot. All three played the exact same man, they just looked different depending on the mission and the year.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Meh.

Another dip to the well of comparisons. Jim Kirk? Looks too much like Jim Carrey when he did In Living Color. He felt all wrong.

Peck saying the same lines Nimoy did 55 years earlier but in his rapid, robotic, clipped manner still makes him the worst Spock since Brandon Stacey.

Taking huge chunks of dialog spoken by different characters than before is too pat, too lazy. Even the music was thin, and quoting Fred Steiner's classic themes with a synth just broke my heart. What a way to kill such indelible music.

After the very strong start, this series is just skidding into laziness and disappointment for me. Alex Kurtzman seems to want this to be what the Bad Robot films were set up to be but didn't really follow through with: revisiting old adventures with a new lens. Fine but that's not what I signed up for. I wanted strange NEW worlds, not Kirk's reworked OLD worlds.

I wanted to love this show. I enjoy the cast (mostly) but the last handful of episodes have been disappointing. Una's arrest was a dull cliff to hang the season on.

I get that a lot of you here love everything they're doing. Every single episode gets a 10 from some of you. Fair enough, but I don't think this show's for me.

 

[fireproof78]

I get that a lot of you here love everything they're doing. Every single episode gets a 10 from some of you. Fair enough, but I don't think this show's for me.

Not everything will be a 10. That;s OK

 

[blssdwlf]

If it's the same universe, how come the Enterprise, the uniforms, and such all look so different from the way they were depicted in...

"Trials and Tribble-ations?"

I think they are all in the Star Trek universe... that happens to canonically have unlimited number of alternate universes - thank you "Mirror, Mirror", "Parallels", etc. So if I were to describe Trials and Tribble-ations to someone else I'd use DS9 as a point of reference. If SNW does their own version then I'd say SNW's Trials and Tribble-ations so there is a reference point. Everyone else will have some other approach to it, so YMMV.

 

[cooleddie74]

This is my favorite Trek series in at least 17 years and possibly much longer but I've given lower scores. A few episodes fell shy of the peaks of the first ones and two of the last three had issues that disappointed me. But on balance this is superb Star Trek.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I'm really happy for the people who are finding this to be their favourite Star Trek in forever and are finally getting what they want, but I don't think I've ever seen such a huge difference between my opinions and the majority here.

I was hyped for a Captain Pike series from the start, I was all on board for this, they had to work to lose me, but every episode leaves me thinking "Oh come on." for some reason or another. I was expecting to see some sign in the voting that it was losing a few people, but man I am really outside the group on this one. I'm seeing The Timeless Child and everyone else is seeing, well, Balance of Terror.

 

[Donald G]

I enjoy SNW, but I have yet to give any episode a 10. Usually, I give solid 8's and 9's.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah, 8 is my average.