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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x07 - "The Serene Squall"

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Well DC Fontana said that outside the 7 year mating cycle Vulcans have sex all the time. Lets admit it TPring or Spock were not especially emotional during times they were about to have sex. Its like they were going to read a newspaper or something. Lol
I've heard that she has said that, but it seems to contradict what is actually depicted on screen. We very rarely see Vulcan romance throughout the franchise. I think it might be more accurate to say that Vulcans are capable of performing at any given time, but that they mostly choose not to. Let's face it, if being intimate is like reading the newspaper, then why bother?
 
The reveal of Angel as the real villain I could see coming a mile away and she was a little too hammy for my tastes...

A hammy performance? In Star Trek!? Inconceivable! ;)

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They always wanted Tom Hanks to play a role (particularly Zefram Cochrane), so why not get his son, Colin Hanks to play Sybok? He's a decent actor in his own right and has an extensive TV and movie resume:

Although I'm sure now that they've introduced the character they already have someone lined up to play him.
 
I've heard that she has said that, but it seems to contradict what is actually depicted on screen. We very rarely see Vulcan romance throughout the franchise. I think it might be more accurate to say that Vulcans are capable of performing at any given time, but that they mostly choose not to. Let's face it, if being intimate is like reading the newspaper, then why bother?

We rarely see a lot with Vulcans across the franchise. Besides, they're Vulcans. Reading the newspaper is the height of their day.
 
The weakest episode of the season so far, and the series' fist dud in my opinion. The previous episode was pretty poor too. Hope this doesn't become a trend after such a great start as I enjoyed the first 5 episodes. Spock's story was fine in this episode, it was Pike's capture and mutiny I had a problem with. I like Pike but he's becoming ridiculously casual. Everything seems to be a joke for him and it really stretches credibility. Picard was captured by Cardassians and we had one of the most intense episodes ever seen in Star Trek. Sisko gets captured by the Jem'Heddar and by the end we see a Galaxy class ship destroyed by an enemy's suicide run. In this episode, Pike gets captured and he ends up cooking dinner for his captors which laughably helps to start a mutiny of sorts. Spock's story redeems this somewhat but I hope we don't have many more episodes focussing on Spock's internal struggle between his humanity and Vulcan side, maybe park this struggle until next season as it's already been covered a lot in just the first 7 episodes.
 
Ok you are talking about how angel was talking about spocks dual lineage. I thought you meant that angel was called they or them throughout the episode. I noticed the duality discussion but didn't equate that to non binary just spocks dual lineage. But I think I see where you are coming from on that point.
Angel tells Spock that being brought up in Vulcan culture is merely geography. This is plainly nonsense.
 
So I have already seen stuff on reddit like poor nurse chapel. like we have been saying this for like 56 years now.

Chapel is going to go through phases. I do think she and spock will date and explore something but Spock will end it. she will be heart broken and we will see her explore her bi sexuality , then get engaged to roger with real love there, however she never got over spock and that is why things are that way in TOS.

and the messiness, this is the part that worries me because it all smells of CW level writing and on a given day that is Kurtzman level of talent.
Maybe but she only has two years til Korby disappears. They have to be engaged before that. Chapel makes it pretty plain she is acting out over a previous dude who broke her heart. It may have been the girl that was bi and misunderstood Chapel. Chapel said it was a misunderstanding. SOOOOO. I vote against the bisexual thing.
She has her career to think of and is probably finishing a Masters degree. Surely she wants that PhD. This is where Korby comes in. Love fades unless it is encouraged. Either they ditch the "Chapel loves Spock forever despite his open rejection" or they admit he is encouraging it.
 
I have to hard disagree with this. First, St:V Sybok almost presented himself as almost a Messiah/Prophet type. There is no reason why a Vulcan who champions the religion of you-do-you because emotions are AWESOME wouldn't also be into gender freedoms as well.
Further though, I think that while some people do politicize religion or use religion as their own personal battering ram, it is a gross overgeneralization to assume that religion is simply a cover for bogots/bigotry. Religion has given us inquisitions, but religion has also given us hospitals, libraries, and universities. Monks spent lifetimes copying books both holy and otherwise. I just went to a pride parade and watched a number of Christian groups marching in it. It's just not nearly as dramatic, so it doesn't make the news. I would argue that believers are as diverse as any other group. Who Watches the Watchers wouldn't be as interesting if the Mintakan's saw "The Picard" and spontaneously built a hospital though.
In addition Spock says Sybok was born out of wedlock. I have read that he was born of Sarek's first marriage.
 
My first 9, not because it was a great episode, but because it's carrying the water for the entire show really well. And this is just the first season. Mahvelous! I won't go much into anything except a couple things:
1) I still believe that Chapel already knows Korby and they've had a relationship and she's not free to tell anyone about it. We'll see what happens there. That kiss with Spock was too passionate and T'Pring knew it was a first kiss (any woman would see that).
2) T'Pring's little secret smirk right when Stonn told her about the call from the Enterprise tells me she's already boinking Stonn. Search me as to why but call it some sort of writerly instinct. We'll see...
3) Spock throwing the pirates around like rag dolls made me grin so widely it hurt.
4) Stonn AND Sybok... loving the canon fodder here ;)
Agreed about the kiss with Spock. What person, knowing the other person is creating a ruse reacts like that to a faked kiss? They look at each other for along moment. Vulcans are touch telepaths. Did he tell her something? Then Spock makes the long trip to sickbay to ask her if she wants to talk about her feelings.Does he want her to say something out loud? Eh? He pays an inordinate amount of attention to her for a man "in love" with T'Pring.

Korby having possibly been married when he and Chapel started their relationship is interesting. I saw a post by a writer on Twitter. Korby is definitely on the way in this series. Wondering if there is a real woman named "Andrea" he knows and fantasizes about or took with him on the expedtition. Then he copies her.

Not sure what T'Pring's smirk means. She is now in my mind utterly manipulative.She's becoming a Black Swan in my mind. The Black Swan represents the material world, dynamic, exciting, seductive but manipulative and cruel. What may she and Sybok be up to?
 
The Good:
Chapel and Spock Have Feelings.
For Each Other.
She wants to be 'just a friend' but there's something about Spock she finds attractive.
Judy Bush and Ethan Peck absolutely nail this.
Absolutely agree. Spock is becoming very attached to her.

Captain Angel was a half decent villain, with more screentime she could have been great.
The "Tholian Web" I assume was a plant by the Sarene Squall. A nice, predictable double-crosser, what can go wrong?

The Bad:
The Orion slaver, the half-hearted comedy and the lousy security.
The Pike plot just wasn't interesting. It was funny but not enough to overcome the mediocrity.
Poor Erika still has barely any character development.

Money Shot:
"Aaargh. Yaaarrrr!"
"Sir, please stop."

Rating: 6/10
 
Star Trek V is one Star Trek film I do not own digitally. I might buy it tonight and give it a rewatch for some refreshed insight in to Syboks character. :bolian:
 
I was disappointed in this one again. Jesse James Keitel's performance just didn't work for me, and the beaming away reminded me of the ending of Chief Wiggun, PI.

("Aw, let him go. I have a feeling we'll meet again... always in more sexy and exciting ways")

Pikes whole blase attitude to being captured and his ship and crew taken seemed out of place, even though he knows his own future, he doesn't know his crews.

I get they needed something for Chapel to do but making her into an off screen Rambo is an... odd choice. And we get a return of the classic Star Trek False Surrender war crime! Although she's a civilian so I guess she doesn't know better. Although why a civilian nurse would also have knowledge of the Enterprises computer systems to the extent shown in Engineering is another question.
Disagree. She looks athletic and muscular to me. A woman can indeed use Aikido or other suitable martial art to flip a bigger and stronger man. T'Pring's clocking the Vulcan though is ridiculous. Chapel is not dealing with an official foreign military organization that signed onto a charter of some kind. She's dealing with pirates. All's fair. Also shoujldn't anyone on the ship be trained to do some basic things like send a distress call? She was trying various ways of logging in.

I was hoping we'd see good ol' auxiliary control, but I guess it's cheaper to set it in engineering.

Spocks character arc is also an odd choice. It's like they are trying to speed run him through stages that took 25 years in the original run. Personally, I think they'd have been better off going the Kelvinverse route and showing him struggling against his human half & trying to be more Vulcan in this show, making his later acceptance of his human side and discovery that logic is not the end point of wisdom better.

I thought Kolinahr was a special, elite process above and beyond regular Vulcan control, that only a small percentage chose to follow. Here it seems like a ritual for all Vulcans?

Was that a Reman punching Pike and messing up his hair?

Pikes pirate talk at the end was a nice TOS episode throwback (the Captain making a joke at the end of a mission).

More Small Universe Syndrome with Sybock being Angel's husband who is in prison, but that's just how the show rolls:shrug:

How many pirates were there, that they managed to overpower the hundreds of crew members so easily?!?!
 
Nowhere in any episode of any Trek was it ever stated that Uhura "first served under Jim Kirk".

Your personal canon does not overwrite actual canon.

I think that the whole "Uhura came in under Kirk" belief grows out of the fact she wasn't in the second pilot (or the first, for that matter), the communications role being filled by Lloyd Haynes character, Alden. If Uhura were a crew member at either of those points, her absence warrants explanation.
 
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