Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x06 - "Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach"

[Jedi Marso]

Mousse abuse. Here's some from the 80s.

See now, that just makes me feel all warm and nostalgic, like Grandma's cooking. Where are my red parachute pants?

 

[GNDN18]

Jeez, everyone here talking about Pikes tall hair as if they never saw a TOS hairstyle.

 

[cooleddie74]

Kevin Riley rarely meets a haircut that makes him go all swagger.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ladies and Gentlemen...Morrissey

 

[cooleddie74]

Did he mention he cried?

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[Nerys Myk]

Did he mention he cried?

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A guy and I at work are always joking about the Smiths and Morrissey. When the day is going particularly bad we usually say it's time for some Smiths.

 

[fireproof78]

Ladies and Gentlemen...Morrissey

Van?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Van?

Just "Morrissey",

 

[AresB]

Nice to see the prop department keep up the Trek tradition of taking a simple everyday plastic box and turning it into a futuristic secure container by adding a keypad on top and a sound effect when opening. Like the weapons lockers on DS9, et al.

 

[Sci]

many homeless people have other issues than just homelessness and often choose not to accept public services and instead panhandle.

Sounds like classist "blame-the-victim" bullshit to me.

 

[Ometiklan]

Sounds like classist "blame-the-victim" bullshit to me.

Well that is rather insulting. I am not blaming anyone. I am just saying that many homeless have other issues like drug addiction or mental illness that makes it harder for them to access or accept the help that is available. The help options aren't perfect, but they are there.

 

[Mudd]

It's true that many homeless folks have serious mental health issues, and that many homeless are suspicious or unhappy with services that are offered - those are not always congruent, though.

 

[plynch]

Everyone needs to stop saying facts that make me uncomfortable.

 

[DaveyNY]

Heh ... The Truth Hurts.

 

[Sci]

Well that is rather insulting. I am not blaming anyone. I am just saying that many homeless have other issues like drug addiction or mental illness that makes it harder for them to access or accept the help that is available.

According to the U.S. Dept. of Housing & Urban Development, only about 25% of homeless people have a serious mental illness. The National Homelessness Law Center points out that the leading causes of homelessness are lack of affordable housing, unemployment, poverty, and low wages, in that order.

Most homeless people are not in their situation because of mental illness.

The help options aren't perfect, but they are there.

You are overstating the extent to which the "help options" actually exist. The "help options" are often deeply authoritarian, unsafe, and/or inadequate to the level of need.

 

[eschaton]

According to the U.S. Dept. of Housing & Urban Development, only about 25% of homeless people have a serious mental illness. The National Homelessness Law Center points out that the leading causes of homelessness are lack of affordable housing, unemployment, poverty, and low wages, in that order.

Most homeless people are not in their situation because of mental illness.

While this is true, most people mean the "visible homeless" who live on the streets when talking about homelessness. They always forget about the much larger homeless population that crashes on friend's couches, sleeps in their cars, or always stays in shelters.

 

[Mudd]

According to the U.S. Dept. of Housing & Urban Development, only about 25% of homeless people have a serious mental illness.

You're making the opposite of the point you think you are, here. One out of four in any population is huge, suggesting that people are reasonable in seeing a correlation.

NIH statistics on serious mental health problems population-wide.

I'll call 25% "many" with a clear conscience.

In America, federal funding and consequently services and support for people with serious emotional and cognitive problems was cut down substantially by the Carter and Reagan administrations, leading to a surge in the homeless population. It's actually a range of problems that continue to this day.

Due to underresourcing and other issues, many available shelters in many large communities are not regarded as safe places by many people, who are hesitant to make use of them except under the most extreme of conditions.

 

[MarsWeeps]

According to the U.S. Dept. of Housing & Urban Development, only about 25% of homeless people have a serious mental illness.

While about 67% of people who actually have homes have a serious mental illness .

 

[JirinPanthosa]

This episode of interesting in that it’s just like a Kirk episode except that Pike took “Not your jurisdiction” as an answer instead of making a speech and changing their minds.

 

[AllenPCarlson]

I loved this episode. It really reminds me of the old TNG era where people would have differences of opinion and give their ideas on them in order to let the viewer decide. The dichotomy between sacrificing the child for the well being of everyone and having many people in small amounts of suffering is an interesting philosophic idea to explore.