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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x07 - "The Serene Squall"

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Never seen a Coluan with pointed ears, and I'm pretty familiar with the Legion (all eras except the very most recent). Shadow Lass's folks went from round to pointed ears but they're blue, not green.
 
Locutus of Bored said:
“Well, let me tell you something, logic boy. Y'know that little holo-stamp, the one that says ‘Memory Alpha Public Library Computer’? Well that may not mean anything to you, but that means a lot to me. One whole hell of a lot. Sure, go ahead, raise your eyebrow if you want to. I've seen your type before: Flashy, making the scene, flouting convention. Yeah, I know what you're thinking. What's this guy making such a big stink about old library chips? Well, let me give you a hint, junior. Maybe we can live without library computers, people like you and me. Maybe. Sure, we're too old to change the galaxy, but what about that kid, sitting down, opening a PADD, right now, in a branch with a local library computer and finding drawings of corkscrew pee-pees and double wee-wees on the Sehlat in the Hat and the Five Klingon Brothers? Doesn't HE deserve better? Look. If you think this is about overdue credits and missing data chips, you'd better think again. This is about that kid's right to read a PADD without getting his mind warped like a starship! Or maybe that turns you on, mind-meld; maybe that's how you get your kicks. You and your amok-time buddies. Well I got a flash for ya, no-joy-boy: Pon-Farr time is over.”
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Well done.
 
dupersuper said:
Are you also upset about the traditionally low number of Chinese and Indian extras among the humans from a united Earth?
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Exactly. I noticed as a kid when watching Star Trek that there were way more white people around in the future than would make sense when pulling from the population of Earth. This kind of worry about overrepresentation usually seems to be oriented towards marginalized groups and rarely the other way.
 
Sci said:
It kind of beggars belief to imagine that Vulcan would maintain a criminal rehabilitation facility far away from a Starfleet starbase at the edge of Federation space. That would be like the State of California maintaining a prison out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
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You mean, like England did with the Botany Bay penal colony in Australia? Granted, it was a dumping ground rather than a rehab facility, but it sets a precedent for getting the undesirables as far away from your homeland as possible.
 
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I have to say, T'Pring is really growing on me. I was starting to chalk it up to a deep-seeded anti-human outlook that will eventually doom their marriage, but then the episode opened up with her actively trying to understand and embrace his human nature, and still did so at the end. It really makes me wonder why T'Pring would settle for such a damp squib like Stonn.

When the episode started, I immediately took to Dr. Aspen. I really wanted them to join the crew. It was real disappointing that they were secretly a cackling villain. I mean, I do love a cackling villain, so it wasn't all bad, though.
 
ToddCam said:
It really makes me wonder why T'Pring would settle for such a damp squib like Stonn.
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Stonn strikes me as the kind of bloke who likes being on a short leash. That, and getting one over on, as Angel called Spock, "Vulcan's favourite son."

When the episode started, I immediately took to Dr. Aspen. I really wanted them to join the crew. It was real disappointing that they were secretly a cackling villain. I mean, I do love a cackling villain, so it wasn't all bad, though.
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I thought something was off about her from the start, but couldn't put my finger on it. After the reveal, it was clear she successfully manipulated us, the audience, as easily as she manipulated the Enterprise senior staff. Angel is a great villain, deftly portrayed. I hope we get to see more of her down the line.
 
ToddCam said:
I have to say, T'Pring is really growing on me. I was starting to chalk it up to a deep-seeded anti-human outlook that will eventually doom their marriage, but then the episode opened up with her actively trying to understand and embrace his human nature, and still did so at the end. It really makes me wonder why T'Pring would settle for such a damp squib like Stonn.
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Well, for one thing, he’s there and he shares her rehabilitation work. We don’t know enough about Stonn one way or the other. I’ve always been more interested in Vulcans than in any of the other alien cultures on Star Trek and I hope they expand more on the culture and marriage customs and the like.

i can live without Angel as a regular cast member, though I do want to see Sybok again.
 
Locutus of Bored said:
Just redressed (very well) to look different?
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No, everything beyond the railing is the AR wall, there is no physical set beyond a couple consoles and the intermix chamber.

Discovery is filmed at a different studio space about 20 minutes away, and Picard is filmed in LA, not Canada. So it couldn’t be either of those sets redressed either way.
 
AlanC9 said:
I hate to be That Guy, but I had to knock this one down a full point for the incoherence about communications. It's two days to talk to Starfleet, but they've got real-time comms with T'Pring's facility?
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The facility T’Pring was at was closer to the Enterprise than Starfleet HQ.
 
Amaris said:
I appreciate it when a show does, though. I mean, if they do it right. If it's "LOOK AT THIS GAY CHARACTER! LOOK AT THEM ACT ALL GAYILY AND GAYTASTIC! ISN'T IT GREAT THEY'RE GAY?!" I'm more likely to hate it for the tokenization, but if they do it right, like Paul and Hugh's relationship, which I find to be not at all shoehorned, and quite sweet and lovingly depicted, then I'm more than pleased to see more of that.

Having Jesse James Keitel in the episode was just a cherry on top of an already fun episode for me, but I don't ignore the fact that it's good to see her there.
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Yeah, I'm the type of guy who hates "wokeness" crowbarred into his fiction. That's not the same as appreciating LGTBQ+ characters in my fiction. Heck, I knew that Hercules was bi-sexual, read Anne Rice's "Vampire Chronicles" (which had gay AND bi-sexual characters in it), and collected the RANMA 1/2 manga series (about a sex-changing martial arts teenager), back in the 1980s while I was in high school. And the thing was, I wasn't any less religious for reading such material because, why? Those stories about those types of characters were done ORGANICALLY. I have no problem with such characters. I do have a problem when you use identity politics to make messages that bash people over the head with. Stories should be use as messages to create bridges with its audiences, IMO.

I remember one episode from THE JEFFERSONS, where the main protagonist saved the life of a racist, only for the racist to proclaim that he rather die. What happened next? While the protagonist wondered what's the point in saving the racist's life, the son of the racist, seeing this, quietly threw away his father's pamphlets, essentially rejecting his father's racism. The protagonist never knew that his act of humanity saved two lives that day, with the hope that the next generation will learn that being racist is stupid. Ergo, if you are going to use LGTBQ+ characters, there are better ways of using them to promote a positive AND universal message. Then again, most writers today lack the ability to write well, at least not to same degree writers of the past have.

Oh, and back to the topic at hand: I give this episode an 8. The Sybok reveal prevented me from scoring this episode a little lower, due to the cheese factor.
 
Midquest said:
+ I find myself rooting for Spock and T'Pring and Spock and Chapel. I only hope that they find a way to creatively close out these relationships, when such time comes, in a way that gives both T'Pring and Chapel a satisfying ending. Strictly speaking, don't we have the insinuation that Spock eventually marries, but not who? I'm curious what narrative possibilities they have here.
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So do I, though I find the multiverse convenient here.There can be one reality where Spock and T’Pring stay together and one where he can end up with Chapel and another where he and Uhura are together, etc. Based on the novels, he had a son with Zarabeth whom he met and rescued from the past, though the son ended up staying in the past on Sarpeidon and establishing a civilization there. According to the books, he married Saavik. I personally assume they had children.
 
E-DUB said:
As an aside, the term "mewling quim" is basically old English for "whiny c-words" and, as such, must be regarded as misogynistic. Sure, Loki said it in a movie, but Loki was an a-hole.
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Why must it? I think there may be a cultural element to use of the C-bomb.

In Australia for example (and more so in England) it is near enough a term of endearment more than of offense.
 
For some reason Spock and T'Pring's current interpersonal relationship reminded me of an old song that my mother loved ...

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