Posts like these make me thank God you don't teach a creative writing class.
STSNW's episodic storytelling or STD and STP's Serialized Seasons
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But that's not what I want. I want people not workers.
I don't remember creative writing boasting a bunch of melodramatic filler. SNW moved away from serialized main arcs and and it's cut down or has pretty much eliminated on the melodramatic(often crying) and filler that we get in STD. If you like what STD offers more power to you but to say my analysis has no bearing and that it's good I didn't become a writer because I don't like serialized tv shows is a pretty poor debate response. Star Trek became popular because of TOS and all the shows would not exist because of it. So yeah for Star Trek episodic is where it was designed to work in.
One would hope that the format would change at some point. Otherwise, it becomes very stale leftovers. And, interestingly, that was a partial response from some fans to the most recent episode.
But, this assumes that one format is better than the other, when it is absolutely not the case. Otherwise, we would not have Deep Space Nine.
Deep Space Nine peppered the Dominion arc but still had stand alone episodes built in. It was a masterful production and writing really. It did it much better than STD or STP by far in my opinion.
But that misses the point. Based upon your writing "Star Trek is episodic." So no serialization efforts should work for Star Trek.
Which is it?
Was there just one story only during those seasons of DS9. Or were there multiple stories?
Multiple stories.
Which is the nature of serialization. Multiple stories and ongoing character development, vs. episodic which basically resets at the end in all but the most basic of connections.
No they had some stand alones to.
The latest ep of SNW is another good one. Plenty of characterization, plot, story and effects all in one hour. The writing is tight and we get a story from start to finish in one hour. So refreshing.
Hence the "multiple stories" comment. See it's a mix that I prefer, with character development that carries forward and story development that actually matters.
I think that the heaviky serialized story telling in Trek might be coming to an end after STP and STD end their runs. If not it should be.Any one ep of SNW is far better than the whole seasons of STD and STP. Why would I sit through 10 to 13 episodes of a one mission or disaster story when I can get the same satisfaction with a 1 hour story? Hard to believe the same people are making SNW. I'll need to check the writers.
Again, why not both? This black and white view is arbitrary and ridiculous. Give me both. Some will enjoy SNW, some will enjoy DSC and PIC, and some (like me) really enjoy both.
The serialized stories have been badly written and paced. They are full of too much filler and some characters are underused. Picards first season had a good first ep then it sank. Also after 10 eps only about a half hour of Q. That really was dissapointing. Its not fun investing that much time in a show when i can get a better fix out of a 1 hour show.
I think series should get the serialisation that suits them. Voyager was crying out for more serialisation at times, but TOS and TNG did just fine with the bare minimum. Enterprise felt like it was treading water between arc episodes a lot of the time, but then really took off when it embraced serialisation. Personally I found Deep Space Nine bored the hell out of me until stories like the three-part Circle trilogy started appearing and more of an ongoing story began to emerge.
What I really want is for a series to really pick up DS9's baton and tell a story about the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Bajorans and so on that spans multiple seasons and pushes the whole setting forward. Not just season-long stories but series-long stories. I guess I'll have to settle for just the Pakleds for now!
What I really want is for a series to really pick up DS9's baton and tell a story about the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Bajorans and so on that spans multiple seasons and pushes the whole setting forward. Not just season-long stories but series-long stories. I guess I'll have to settle for just the Pakleds for now!
At the risk of sounding very very rude don't watch it. Please don't wish the ending of something just because of personal disinterest.
DS9 did a fine job with it. The issue wuth STD and STP is all the boring filler. Both of their last seasons could have been done in 2 or 3 hours.
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That's not a problem with serialisation then, that's a problem with trying to spread a three-episode story over a ten-episode season.
Ive watched serialized stuff before and liked it. The newer trek stuff takes a thing like a galaxy destroying entity and drags it out for far too long where we end up up getting way too much filler. DS9 was about a war against a enemy so we got to see both sides as well as other stand alone crisises that popped up. STD took one situation where they had to solve it. There was nothing else going in that was interesting unless people loved that Saru tried to get a girlfriend during a crisis. Pretty unprofessional.
Yes, I care. I care about these characters. I want to see them on adventures. I'll take that. Thanks.
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