He's just a blueshirt character.
Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x02 - "Children of The Comet"
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I dunno, hard to call a character we saw briefly as a corpse a legacy character. Yeah, technically true.
Yes, engineering is btw also filmed on that AR set.
I suspected they would use it on SNW this way - much more sparingly ("Mandalorian" developed this set - they use it for almost every scene. SNW rents the set - they will have to use it more strategically).
So I'll guess we will have one or two locations per episode filmed on this set, and the majority still on the standing "Enterprise"-sets (did anyone notice the windows in Pike's quarter went from "starfield" to the much more budget-friendly "yellow light"s
). But that also makes for these special locations stand out more, so I think it's a very good budget compromise.Fully agree.
If I had one complaint about this show, it's the whole "prequel"-stuff - I would have preferred a new show set in the "present" (24th) century doing the same great characters/episode-of the week stuff.
But then again - without this being a prequel - they would have NEVER gone full TECHNICOLOR & retro-futurism, which I think is a big part of the charm of this show. So yeah - I still wish for less legacy charaters. But whatever - they're doing a (mostly) fine job with them so far.
Also a shit-ton secondary material (books, comics), deleted scene in ST09, we know when/how he dies...
Yes, we don't know his character (and I find it weird that he also was in Starfleet, lest even on the friggin' Enterprise itself!). But still.
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Maybe post this in the comment sections of Mecharandom, Nerdrotic or Doomcock..? You’ll gets lots of attention and likes there……Wow this episode was baaad.The endless 'music', singing, fake-looking set (surrounded by christmas lights) and the drawn out 'figuring out communication'. Boring! The first episode was ok, this one was garbage. This episode is just Discovery with a different skin - and not even that different at that.
Same irritating, irregular, unnatural cadence as Discovery, too. What the hell is is with that? Like everything is abrupt, shallow and decided in an instant but then suddenly a drawn out, "We've lost contact with the ship. We're on our own" instance of repeated sentences. The dialog just like Disc., is often incredibly dumb and cringeworthy - can't quite put my finger on it. Like a mixture of a kids' show and some amateur writer creating the dialog.
I'll stick with it though and hope it's the usual star trek 'first season is trash' problem.
One more nitpick:
I loved that the Enterprise fired a classic phaser "beam"! And not one of those generic energy "bolts".
It was nice that it was red (blue is more iconic for TOS, but I think red actually happened more often - fine with both).
I just wish.. it were, you know, the Enterprise firing it's iconic DOUBLE phaser!
I loved that the Enterprise fired a classic phaser "beam"! And not one of those generic energy "bolts".
It was nice that it was red (blue is more iconic for TOS, but I think red actually happened more often - fine with both).
I just wish.. it were, you know, the Enterprise firing it's iconic DOUBLE phaser!
09 clues us in that Kirk Sr. was very strong influence towards Starfleet.
I sympathize with the thought that they might've avoided a lot of weird fan reaction if they'd not tried to bring in as many TOS characters. So far, this really just means Uhura, Chapel, Kirk, and Maybe-Kyle.
But, particularly with the two women, I see it as an opportunity to flesh out some characters that were relegated to the background. Although Uhura and Chapel are well-loved, they didn't get much to do in TOS. Uhura was lucky to ever get more than a "Communications frequencies open, captain", and Chapel rarely got more than a doe-eyed close-up for her part.
I've been re-watching TOS episodes the last couple of weeks, and I'd forgotten how plainly sexist all the female roles were still portrayed. TOS sort of imagined a post-sexism world, but still behaved very much like a 1960's television show.
For everyone saying these characters don't act much like those on TOS, I say we don't have much evidence of that: we hardly saw the acting any way at all in TOS.
And, of course, everyone in this show behaves in the more casual way we expect on modern television. TOS characters went from being extremely stoic to unnaturally melodramatic from one scene to the next, as was common on TV back then.
But, particularly with the two women, I see it as an opportunity to flesh out some characters that were relegated to the background. Although Uhura and Chapel are well-loved, they didn't get much to do in TOS. Uhura was lucky to ever get more than a "Communications frequencies open, captain", and Chapel rarely got more than a doe-eyed close-up for her part.
I've been re-watching TOS episodes the last couple of weeks, and I'd forgotten how plainly sexist all the female roles were still portrayed. TOS sort of imagined a post-sexism world, but still behaved very much like a 1960's television show.
For everyone saying these characters don't act much like those on TOS, I say we don't have much evidence of that: we hardly saw the acting any way at all in TOS.
And, of course, everyone in this show behaves in the more casual way we expect on modern television. TOS characters went from being extremely stoic to unnaturally melodramatic from one scene to the next, as was common on TV back then.
Sounds impossible. Every fan knows that TOS was the height of professionalism. I was told this by top men.
They're not yellow lights. They're closed blinds. Look closely.(did anyone notice the windows in Pike's quarter went from "starfield" to the much more budget-friendly "yellow light"s
Not at all! I don't hate the show so far anyway - it's only been 2 episodes, but it does appear headed towards being a Discovery clone. Anyway I'm mostly commenting on just this episode. I know garbage when I see it and am not afraid to call it such - unlike the delusional trekkies here that think everything is great just because it's star trek.
It looks and feels nothing like Discovery, and acts nothing like it. It's hard to believe you don't have preconceived notions while saying the above.
I'm not getting the Discovery comparison either. Two completely different crews and ships along with one being serialized and the other being episodic. The only thing similar about them is the scenes on the bridge which you could say about the majority of Trek shows that take place on a bridge
This is actually one thing I really don't like about modern Trek, SNW included – that apparently every captain needs to have their own catchphrase for going to warp
What, no catchphrase contest?
You're confusing her with Saru.When Burnham was promoted to captain she said something like "I guess I need a catchphrase now." Something like that. Seriously.
I actually do think the bridge scenes beween SNW / DIS / JJTrek movies are filmed in a very similar way. Probably dependant on the hardware used (because the writing & acting is wildly different between those three). I think it's the similar angles, camera movements, cuts between actors.
Similar to how TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT had a very similar filmmaking style, as well as TOS/season1&2 TNG.
On 90s Trek you often had one character in the foreground saying something, than the camera shifting focus to another character in the background saying the next line. Then focus shifting back to the character in the foreground. Both characters always in the same frame, but only one sharp, the other one blurred. On modern Trek you have the camera moving around from one person to the next saying their lines, and usually one character (Pike, Burnham, Kirk) also walking around & catching the camera again at a later point on a different position on the bridge to say the next lines.
PIC is somewhat of a weird exception, I think because of all the "holographic interfaces" the filmmaking looks much more stable & boring. Everyone is always sitting and the camera just toggles left to right & then back in front of one character and then cuts from one character to the next when they are talking.
Similar to how TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT had a very similar filmmaking style, as well as TOS/season1&2 TNG.
On 90s Trek you often had one character in the foreground saying something, than the camera shifting focus to another character in the background saying the next line. Then focus shifting back to the character in the foreground. Both characters always in the same frame, but only one sharp, the other one blurred. On modern Trek you have the camera moving around from one person to the next saying their lines, and usually one character (Pike, Burnham, Kirk) also walking around & catching the camera again at a later point on a different position on the bridge to say the next lines.
PIC is somewhat of a weird exception, I think because of all the "holographic interfaces" the filmmaking looks much more stable & boring. Everyone is always sitting and the camera just toggles left to right & then back in front of one character and then cuts from one character to the next when they are talking.
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Pretty sure Saru didn't say that.
You know what? I don't understand why directors now feel they have to move the camera all the time. Static cameras were absolutely fine to me. Handhelf shaky-cam is just distracting, and doesn't make the scene feel "dynamic" in any way.
Sort of an annoying nitpick with scene, they used they "defibrillator" setting on the tricorder to restart Kirk's heart. I thought we all know by now that defibrillators don't start stopped hearts.
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