Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

[DaveyNY]

You said it was:



Read all of the questions. Then answer to the best of your ability.

So read all of the questions on the test before starting? Or is it read the question (with the full intent of understanding it) before answering?

Not everyone's brain processes data the same way.

Read All the Questions. <=== PERIOD

In case you didn't notice, there's a rather obvious DOT at the end of that sentence.

English COM-PRE-HEN-SION was the title of the College Course.

If one had read ALL the questions one would have discovered that the very last question would have been the only one that needed answering to the best of ones ability.
(the second part of the Instructions)

 

[Belz...]

Heh ...
If "Read ALL The Questions.
THEN do something else..." is too complicated for you, you both would have failed the course.

The three instruction lines were even separated.

You're missing the point. Reading comprehension isn't about just a literal reading of text. A lot of interpretation also has to be made, because human speech is often inexact. Under normal human interactions, if someone asks you to read "all" questions before answering them, you can safely assume they mean "each" because that's often how humans talk. "All" often means "each" or even "most". So although it is not the correct, literal answer, it isn't an incorrect interpretation.

I understand the point of the test. It makes an interesting demonstration of language, but it doesn't really teach much on reading comprehension.

 

[Jedman67]

First Contact takes place over 100 years after SNW.

It's a precedent from a production POV. It's technically possible, so may as well incorporate it into a story.

 

[Amaris]

Read All the Questions. <=== PERIOD

In case you didn't notice, there's a rather obvious DOT at the end of that sentence.

English COM-PRE-HEN-SION was the title of the College Course.

Read all the questions on the test before beginning? Or is it a general "read all the questions" that means to read the question fully before responding? I've had both kinds of tests with similar directions given. You keep saying "English comprehension" as if that should be a sufficient answer, but it's not, especially if you don't process instructions the same as others. I comprehend English very well. So well, in fact, that I'm aware of multiple avenues of interpretation that require further context.

 

[DaveyNY]

You're missing the point. Reading comprehension isn't about just a literal reading of text. A lot of interpretation also has to be made, because human speech is often inexact. Under normal human interactions, if someone asks you to read "all" questions before answering them, you can safely assume they mean "each" because that's often how humans talk. "All" often means "each" or even "most". So although it is not the correct, literal answer, it isn't an incorrect interpretation.

I understand the point of the test. It makes an interesting demonstration of language, but it doesn't really teach much on reading comprehension.

Heh ... I think you also missed where I wrote that it was The First Day of the Class.
The Professor was testing to see how many of his students actually understood what the course was all about.

The instructions were pretty clear and not open to interpretation.

If the two of you had tried to argue the point, he probably would have asked you to leave.

It wasn't a class about 'English Interpretation'.

 

[seigezunt]

Yeah but…
The actual shots of the Earth engulfed by a nuclear holocaust was not at all hopeful to me. I mean, yeah, it’s great that in hundreds of years the Trek universe will be a happy place, but let’s face it, that sequence, even if only a few seconds, was way darker than anything I’ve seen on DSC or PIC. It was especially sobering giving the fact that we’re closer to nuclear war than at any other point during many of our lifetimes.

And yet, after a very depressing week of depressing news, there was something about that episode that made me feel good. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about the aspirational nature of Star Trek, and especially this episode, managed to wipe my gloom away, if only for an evening. The idea that there are other people in the world hoping for something better, and not simply doing their best to make some Other suffer, gave me a nugget of happiness. Which reminds me very much of what Trek did way back when.

 

[Amaris]

Heh ... I think you also missed where I wrote that it was The First Day of the Class.
The Professor was testing to see how many of his students actually understood what the course was all about.

The instructions were pretty clear and not open to interpretation.

If the two of you had tried to argue the point, he probably would have asked you to leave.

Sounds like a bad professor.

 

[Belz...]

Heh ... I think you also missed where I wrote that it was The First Day of the Class.

That's beside the point. Whether it was the first or last day, interpretation is still a vital component of reading comprehension. Again, the test is interesting, but not wholly useful.

It wasn't a class about English Interpretation.

Then I submit you don't understand my point about reading comprehension. Perhaps reading my previous post for comprehension would help.

 

[DaveyNY]

Heh ... yeah, you continue on with that.
You still would have failed the course.

That very last question of the test proves your "interpretation" is wrong.

 

[Amaris]

Heh ... yeah, you continue on with that.
You still would have failed the course.

That very last question of the test proves you are wrong.

If, on the first day of class, my reply to an openly interpretative statement of "read all the questions" would have lead me to fail the course, then the professor was a bad professor who was incapable of properly giving a comprehensive English course. Don't blame students whose perspectives cause them to approach problems in a non-typical fashion for the failings of a professor who is so inflexible as to brook no option to understand the fluid and dynamic nature of language.

It's such a silly thing. I was in AP English courses by 7th grade, and context was something we fully understood.

 

[Tuskin38]

There was in STO. A Kentari by the name of Pentarro. "He initially presents himself as overly cautious of outsiders, but eventually reveals himself to be a Traditionalist." Even modeled to look like him. A painfully unsubtle Trump.

The backlash on the game forums and social media was insane.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I recall a similar test. Getting done before others was quite satisfying.

This was used in a Midsomer Murders story.

 

[Trekker4747]

I preferred the test where I was put in an awkward chair without a surface. Then they waited to see if I could figure out to the drag the table on the other side of the room over so I more easily fill out the form.

 

[urbandefault]

Heh ... yeah, you continue on with that.
You still would have failed the course.

That very last question of the test proves your "interpretation" is wrong.

I saw 3 instructions.
1. Read all the questions.
2. THEN ...
3. THEN ...

No ambiguity there, and no interpretation required. To pass the test, just read and follow the instructions.

But don't mind me, I'm just an old boomer.

 

[Mudd]

Yeah, seems like a good teacher. Got everyone to pay goddamned attention from the beginning.

 

[Amaris]

I saw 3 instructions.
1. Read all the questions.
2. THEN ...
3. THEN ...

No ambiguity there, and no interpretation required. To pass the test, just read and follow the instructions.

But don't mind me, I'm just an old boomer.

Then I warmly welcome you to the 21st century, where neurodiverse people are acknowledged to exist, and the "there's only one way to teach something" approach is seen as a deeply flawed method.

 

[DaveyNY]

If, on the first day of class, my reply to an openly interpretative statement of "read all the questions" would have lead me to fail the course, then the professor was a bad professor who was incapable of properly giving a comprehensive English course

Heh ... there was no discussion allowed.

We walked in, he gave each of us the test, gave his instructions and said proceed.

He wasn't a bad Prof., you are a bad student.

Your in HIS class to learn.
Not be the Professor.

 

[Belz...]

Heh ... yeah, you continue on with that.
You still would have failed the course.

That is a terrible argument. You simply side-stepped my points. You seem unwilling to even consider that you might be wrong here.

Heh ... there was no discussion allowed.

We walked in, he gave each of us the test, gave his instructions and said proceed.

He wasn't a bad Prof., you are a bad student.

Ah, yes. "There is only one possible answer" is a great way to look at language.

 

[Amaris]

Heh ... there was no discussion allowed.

We walked in, he gave each of us the test, gave his instructions and said proceed.

He wasn't a bad Prof., you are a bad student.

No, I was an excellent student. Straight As through all 5 years of AP English courses.

 

[Trekker4747]

That is a terrible argument. You simply side-stepped my points. You seem unwilling to even consider that you might be wrong here.

The kettle would like a word with you.