Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"
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Ah yes… The stench of tyranny backed by the cudgel of mass destruction is universal.
Thinking about the episode again, I'm impressed by how very little action there is. Most other Star Trek pilots have needed some shooting or starship battles.
Also, is Pike's issue not only his future but something that happened between the end of Discovery season 2 and the start of this show? He was all smiles setting out to space at the end of Discovery.
Also, is Pike's issue not only his future but something that happened between the end of Discovery season 2 and the start of this show? He was all smiles setting out to space at the end of Discovery.
I think they're just ignoring that.
Yeah, this is to be taken as the first relaunch of Enterprise since the end of the Control battle.
Yeah. Look at DSC S4E01. The intro feels like the STID intro.
Fitting, though, for a first episode of a series featuring Captain Christopher Pike. Very "Cage"-like.
I felt like some flaws in this episode showed a bit more on rewatch.
Spock getting to the Enterprise / Earth from Vulcan before Pike did. Could be that they didn't leave that day like April wanted, but then did they wait days to send a ship after Una?
Una's first contact mission doesn't make sense - She didn't do any kind of research on the planet that would indicate they were in a conflict and not ready for federation membership? Why did the entire crew (of 3 people) beam down to the surface. How were they planning on beaming back up?
The planet's inhabitants shooting weapons at The Enterprise is never mentioned again. What was the purpose of them shooting at Starfleet? Why did they not shoot at The Archer when it first arrived in orbit like The Enterprise?
How did Nurse Chapel have genetic code from the aliens to make Pike and crew look like them? (I could buy that it was just visual based on studying their appearance from the planet's communications or something, but the thought did come up and it wasn't mentioned in the episode) Chapel mentioned the aliens were a close match to the crew's genetics. How did she know this? Was this just from their appearance since she noted they were humanoid?
How did La'an know that the retina scan information would be tied to the security card or that there even would be a retina scan? How did she know the retina scan wouldn't be saved in the building's system ? She didn't know that the warp signature was coming from that specific building until they beamed down. Also, those two employees went outside from a parking garage type exit. It seems like it would have just been easier for them to try to get that door open.
Una and her crew were in a prison cell for days. Were they just going to be left there indefinitely? Did they ask to speak to the leader like Pike did? Did the planet just not like aliens? The aliens capturing Una and crew is never mentioned again once they are free.
Spock getting to the Enterprise / Earth from Vulcan before Pike did. Could be that they didn't leave that day like April wanted, but then did they wait days to send a ship after Una?
Una's first contact mission doesn't make sense - She didn't do any kind of research on the planet that would indicate they were in a conflict and not ready for federation membership? Why did the entire crew (of 3 people) beam down to the surface. How were they planning on beaming back up?
The planet's inhabitants shooting weapons at The Enterprise is never mentioned again. What was the purpose of them shooting at Starfleet? Why did they not shoot at The Archer when it first arrived in orbit like The Enterprise?
How did Nurse Chapel have genetic code from the aliens to make Pike and crew look like them? (I could buy that it was just visual based on studying their appearance from the planet's communications or something, but the thought did come up and it wasn't mentioned in the episode) Chapel mentioned the aliens were a close match to the crew's genetics. How did she know this? Was this just from their appearance since she noted they were humanoid?
How did La'an know that the retina scan information would be tied to the security card or that there even would be a retina scan? How did she know the retina scan wouldn't be saved in the building's system ? She didn't know that the warp signature was coming from that specific building until they beamed down. Also, those two employees went outside from a parking garage type exit. It seems like it would have just been easier for them to try to get that door open.
Una and her crew were in a prison cell for days. Were they just going to be left there indefinitely? Did they ask to speak to the leader like Pike did? Did the planet just not like aliens? The aliens capturing Una and crew is never mentioned again once they are free.
I'm sure the computer can handle transport.
Who says they didn't?
Probably just deduction, I think. The tech existed in the 21st century, a parallel to this alien planet, and they still use it in the 23rd, giving them plenty of knowledge of how it works. Unlike Khan's cryotubes in STID, that tech is still in use.
So was Kirk at the end of TWOK. It's the nature of storytelling--the hero comes away with new insight before plunging into the darkness again.
Or, more pragmatically, the storytellers decided to forget the exact ending of the previous chapter to go towards a more brooding beginning for the next one.
Exactly. I had the same thought. TWOK is even more egregious given that Kirk is mourning the loss of his best friend, and is still in mourning, and is willing to risk it all by the next film.
To me, as very much a brooder, this is why Pike is the most appealing captain. I can be happy that something difficult is done, and only after the fact go through heavy reflection. I don't think the writers are ignoring anything; I think they are recognizing what people actually do sometimes, which is have a success, be happy for a time, and then reflect and become more broody. I know, it's strange for Star Trek characters to act like humans I know in real life!
Sure, I agree. I still thought it's weird that he headed out again so quickly at the end of Discovery season 2 but here he's afraid to go back out into space because of "what happened out there". I just wondered was there something else that triggered this current moodiness.
Maybe the end of DSC S2 is meant to be later on... or a sort of preview of things to come in SNW... not to be taken literally.
Kirk is smiling and in a good mood right after losing two of his crewmembers to a mutated 20th century Earth probe that almost destroyed all life on Earth. When he gestures to the Navigator and says: "Thataway" he's definitely not mourning Decker and Ilia.
So pretty much like the situation at the end of TOS S1 - "The Galileo Seven"...5 crewmen dead, but they're all smiles and laughing after Spock refuses to admit he had an emotional outburst...
Yep. End the year on a high note. Most Trek series seasons and films do. Don't leave them feeling bummed out unless it's necessary to the continuing story.
Just his nature.
In that sense, it's very much like The Cage!
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