Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

Between this and Heartstopper I’ve had a week where I haven’t stopped smiling at my TV. Even the finale of Picard made my heart very full.

The first episode just exuded a lot of heart that I’ve missed in trek for quite some time.

 

Really enjoyed this first episode. Best pilot episode of this new Trek era. Best since broken bow in my humble opinion, which I thought was pretty good as well. This is slightly better than that one was.

Love the new intro. Well written, paced and the effects were good. Can't wait for the next episode.

 

What's interesting about the ending is part of me wonders if they might take away another message. These humans nearly destroyed their planet yet now they fly around in ships far more advanced than we do. Perhaps massive destruction won't be so bad in the long run because we can still have what these humans have.

 

So, did any one else think "Silent Running" when Pike was talking about the forests?

 

I was insanely happy with the episode. It was FUN!

It made me laugh!

I immediately said, "I see Ethan's been working out!" Impressive.

Amen guys!

 

From upthread, earlier today:

 

I might have skipped a page or twenty.

Some time the discussions start going nowhere.

 

It's like the Bugs Bunny square dance sometimes.

As for what the nods (plural) were that I saw, it was the forest dome visual itself coupled with the fact that they were launched during an environmental crisis in order to preserve them.

To reiterate, I like that they tied it into "Space Seed." It fits together nicely. Also, I fully support pushing the Eugenics Wars ahead into the future (relative to now).

 

She is

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his granddaughter

It would've worked better for me if the ship hovering over the city hadn't been in the trailer

There are a lot of videos that show how the Titanic sank - none were filmed as it happened

They could've moved the most important pieces to a secure bunker, then rebuilt the building after the attack

IIRC, it was a distress call modified by a star into a melody that different worlds incorporated into their cultures...

 

If Japan was so ready to surrender, why did the military attempt to Stage a coup once the Emperor had decided to surrender.

It's true that the Japanese would surrender if they got what they consider favorable terms; but the Allied Forces led by the US were not about to allow Japan to dictate any terms given the sneak attack they performed at Pearl Harbor in 1941.

And it's known that the military was training all Japanese citizens to fight, including children as young as 11 years old. This was being done in all Japanese schools. They wanted the US forces to invade, but thought if they made the invasion so costly in terms of US military casualties; they could get a situation that allowed them to surrender on their terms.

 

Wait, so did we bomb the military that tried to coup Hirohito, or did we bomb two major cities with massive civilian populations? Because this sounds like a forced choice scenario, and it was not a forced choice on the part of the US. We did not have to drop bombs and kill hundreds of thousands immediately, and millions over the years from horrible radiation related illnesses. Why Japan and not Germany?

We are the only nation that has ever used a nuclear device on another nation in any kind of combat. We have no room to proclaim other nations a danger to the world when we hold that ghastly trophy in our hands.

So we did it out of revenge? That sounds worse than doing it because we thought they wouldn't surrender, and of course the Japanese government would negotiate for things the US would consider off the table, that's why they're negotiations. The US, if it were so interested, could have worked things out if they wanted, but as you say, they weren't about to let Japan get away with catching them by surprise at Pearl Harbor.

That's convenient. Where else have I heard that <insert enemy population> has been training their children to attack the US should they invade? To put it another way, the US military is very good at looking like it had no other choice when it bombs two major cities and kills thousands of innocents, so they claim the innocents weren't so innocent.

It's the police equivalent of "they weren't angels," when they shoot a minority. The narrative has to always be the person with total power had no other choice, and in the case of the US dropping two nuclear bombs on the civilians of Japan, they had to make it seem as if there were no other choice. Of course, as we get further away from the history that was painted by the US military, we find glaring holes in that logic.

After the battle of Midway, Japan began talking amongst itself about surrender.

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-the-us-really-bombed-hiroshima/

Granted, this is all for another topic, but this notion that we had no choice to drop two bombs on Japanese men, women, and children is false. It is a blatant retelling of US history to make us look like the good guys, because good guys wouldn't purposely target civilians, would they?

So why the bomb? Why two bombs? Why on civilians? Why when Japan was talking conditional surrender?

Just something to consider.

I'll get back to the topic at hand now.

 

Huh, I just saw it pointed out, but Pike and Spock were the only male bridge crew in episode 1.

Watched the episode twice, and never noticed.

 

First thing I noticed when I watched, because I noticed the two women at helm and nav, and took a quick look around while they were panning. I just thought it was very cool, almost like an inverse of the original TOS pilot where it was all men and one woman on the bridge.

 

I watched it and absolutely loved it! Only had two complaints: Captain Pike's hair (which, at first, looked ultra-douchey, but has since grown on me), and Spock's hair seemed very messy for a Vulcan (but it's growing on me also, so no worries!)

 

I'd be fine with that if we weren't talking about fascists who quite literally tried to violently overthrow the U.S. government and install an unelected dictator. That's not something Star Trek should be "both sides"-ing about.

 

Radioactive fallout AND a nuclear winter. There is some data for extrapolating the nuclear winter due to volcanoes on Earth and the large dust storms on Mars.

 

I feel like I haven't seen Angry Joe's review linked yet. Doesn't it usually get linked by someone, or the score mentioned at least? I wonder if something could've changed to make them less interested in his opinion this time around...

 

I assume it's based on Spock's The Cage hair cut.

 

Huh. Reminded me of the best parts of The Orville. Not bad at all.

 

I was curious if "Ain't it Cool News" had anything to say about Strange New Worlds. Apparently not.