Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

[Noname Given]

Agreed, and it'd be easier to believe Chapel was able to create their disguises based on visual date procured by the Archer crew. That she was able to duplicate the appearance of a species they had yet to study closely on a genetic level was a bit of a stretch.

^^^
I guess you missed the dialogue where M'Benaga she's a civilian on loan and part of a project (IE - the method they just used in this episode to 'blend in' with the natives') basically pilot-testing this new 'Altering Genome' approach to see how well it works. She's not a member of Star Fleet proper at this point and time.

 

[ananta]

Look what happened to Yeoman Colt.

What the actual heck? How did she turn into a Jem’Hadar with a wig?

That's such a weird threshold. The ship's design is changed, the props and uniforms and sets are updated, the tech is better than it was in TOS, etc. etc. etc. ... and Kyle being a different racial profile is THE thing that sends the show into reboot territory?

I don’t think it’s weird. I can accept the fact sets and props and whatnot are altered, but human beings being completely different races throws me off—at least Kyle is still human, why the heck make Colt an alien? Why not make her a new character? It certainly doesn’t tally with The Cage, where she was meant to tempt Pike sexually? If he’d tried to kiss a face like that he’d have ended up with skin lacerations.

 

[BillJ]

Maybe I missed it, but I can't recall them going into any detail of how Number One and her crew were lured down to the planet and arrested.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

Dunno about you, but I'm praying for a big shiny spaceship to hover in the sky and tell us to shape up so we can join the stars.

Holy shit Starbase One is gorgeous!

 

[BillJ]

I don’t think it’s weird. I can accept the fact sets and props and whatnot are altered, but human beings being completely different races throws me off—at least Kyle is still human, why the heck make Colt an alien? Why not make her a new character? It certainly doesn’t tally with The Cage, where she was meant to tempt Pike sexually? If he’d tried to kiss a face like that he’d have ended up with skin lacerations.

It was likely a mistake, as the only thing referencing to her as Colt is the credits.

 

[Charles Phipps]

What the actual heck? How did she turn into a Jem’Hadar with a wig?

Chapel: I'm still working out the details.

It was likely a mistake, as the only thing referencing to her as Colt is the credits.

I sincerely doubt it was a mistake. I mean, its a very specific reference.

Why not retcon a character into an alien?

 

[Noname Given]

You know, they were really kinda off kilter with this part of the episode. Seems like they would've simply listened in on their communications and would've been able to tell a great deal about them from those.

Uhura DID - per the scene where she was talking to the escaped Alien in the Turbolift; calming him down.

 

[Belz...]

I don’t think it’s weird.

Of course not. It's your threshold!

I can accept the fact sets and props and whatnot are altered, but human beings being completely different races throws me off

But why? Why is a difference in, say, the bridge, not comparable to a change in actors, however the actor looks? What makes it acceptable to change one and not the other? It's a genuine question. What makes each of us, individually, comfortable with one change and not the other when they are, essentially, of the same nature?

 

[BillJ]

Uhura DID - per the scene where she was talking to the escaped Alien in the Turbolift; calming him down.

It didn't seem like it translated into information for the landing party.

 

[Noname Given]

Now THAT'S a Star Trek!!

You Tell 'em Spocko.

 

[Belz...]

Maybe I missed it, but I can't recall them going into any detail of how Number One and her crew were lured down to the planet and arrested.

They weren't lured down. They went down to investigate the warp signature and got into a scuffle and got arrested.

 

[BillJ]

What makes each of us, individually, comfortable with one change and not the other when they are, essentially, of the same nature?

Because they really aren't of the same nature. You can't change your race in the real world. You can change most everything around you, but your race remains constant. So, for me, changing it in a production doesn't really work for my brain.

 

[BorgMan]

I... I wasn't ready for this. There was a lot to love, but what struck me in the face (apart from his flashbacks/feelings to his own future... dude...) was Pike's speech to this new world. For a series called Strange New Worlds, this felt a bit too close to home for comfort. But man... I lost it with his speech and the following shots of how Enterprise's arrival has sparked hope. The showrunners weren't joking when they said that "hope" is what they're going for. Something to look to and strive for. Along with the bumps that are bound to be on the road.

Shit... I really need a night's sleep to process all of this.

 

[BillJ]

They weren't lured down. They went down to investigate the warp signature and got into a scuffle and got arrested.

Guess we know why Una didn't get the Enterprise when Pike retired.

 

[Belz...]

Because they really aren't of the same nature. You can't change your race in the real world. You can change most everything around you, but your race remains constant.

But you can't retroactively change technology or the entire proportions of a ship, either. If the impossibility of a thing in real-life continuity is the problem, it should be a problem for other physical things as well. I guess we place more "value" in characters than props (even when talking about entirely secondary characters), but objectively there's no real difference.

 

[Belz...]

I... I wasn't ready for this. There was a lot to love, but what struck me in the face (apart from his flashbacks/feelings to his own future... dude...) was Pike's speech to this new world. For a series called Strange New Worlds, this felt a bit too close to home for comfort. But man... I lost it with his speech and the following shots of how Enterprise's arrival has sparked hope. The showrunners weren't joking when they said that "hope" is what they're going for. Something to look to and strive for. Along with the bumps that are bound to be on the road.

Yes. Recent major TV shows have been too collectively "gritty" and "edgy" for many years now, and I'm in need for something bright and fun. Maybe we all are, given how things are right now.

 

[BillJ]

But you can't retroactively change technology or the entire proportions of a ship, either.

Sure you can. It doesn't make much sense for the Enterprise to have slanted pylons then straight pylons then slanted pylons again, but it is technologically feasible. Maybe we come to a point that it becomes feasible to change one's race, but we aren't remotely there yet.

 

[Noname Given]

Cmdr. M'Benga is the ship's CMO. That raises the question what he's going to do to get demoted. Or maybe he's the father of TOS-M'Benga?

Probably the same thing Dr. Crusher will do 100+ years from 'now'. You know where at the start of TNG S2 she was the Head of Star Fleet Medical - and 1 year later back to just being CMO on a Starship.

 

[BillJ]

Probably the same thing Dr. Crusher will do 100+ years from 'now'. You know where at the start of TNG S2 she was the Head of Star Fleet Medical - and 1 year later back to just being CMO on a Starship.

I actually like the idea of him being the father of TOS M'Benga.

 

[Nyotarules]

I just gave my first top marks! (really a 10). Fantastic start to the series, I have a very tiny, insignificant complaint, I wish Pike's girlfriend wasn't human, a way to reinforce this is the future, in a Trek universe interspecies connections will be a norm, especially since Earth is the HQ. I did smile at all those females on the bridge, there is someone filled with rage about that. All the characters are great. I'm off to watch it again!
On second go round, love the world buliding on the Vulcan culture. I am not a T'Pring hater, I can understand why she did, what she will do on 'Amok Time', she was not a fan of Spock gallivanting around the galaxy and seven years is a long time! Girl had to have a logical backup plan.