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Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

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    Votes: 147 45.9%
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Regarding the rest of the episode, I don’t have much to say…I’m a bit confused at what happened to the Archer’s crew: we’re there only three of them? And how did they get imprisoned?

  1. Yes.
  2. They beamed down to make contact and got captured.
Another issue, already present on Discovery, is that this show tries to be a prequel while at the same time being more advanced than the future shows. And I’m not talking looks here: why the gene therapy (wasn’t that banned in the first place?) that unluckily wears off when in *future* Trek they relied on makeup or surgery in similar situation? Why all this talk of the Gorn when the first contact with them is supposedly a decade in the future? Since when there is an emergency transporter in sickbay? Why the quarters are so huge?
All that is a feature, not a bug. The future is more futuristic now than in the 1960s.

All in all all these problems would go away if this was just another timeline.

Why is it a problem? "Another timeline" is just a phrase like "Abra Cadabra."
 
I just don’t know what to say. It is just excusing poorly thought out writing.

Well, I wouldn't have done it. I love fanwank and continuity as much as any fan but at least the propmaker had the text on the PADD to leave the whole incident vague and unofficial, at least to everyone except La'an.
 
And? The point is that I can picture Nichols saying it AS Uhura.



Maybe you should have specified which series this was a spoiler TO, man.

Fair enough that you can picture that. I don't. So far as I'm concerned that's a wash. Further, putting a spoiler tag in a thread that already allows for SNW spoilers (check the title), one could assume that what I placed a spoiler tag over was not related to SNW or the SNW episode being discussed. But maybe that's just how I picture what spoiler tags might be for.
 
...at least to everyone except La'an.

But you have verifiable experience with them, and for some reason they now eat humans or lay babies in them. And I'm betting they will be around before the end of the first season.
 
But you have verifiable experience with them, and for some reason they now eat humans or lay babies in them. And I'm betting they will be around before the end of the first season.
One witness who was a child who experienced extreme trauma and was found on a life boat.

None of the other series ever said they don't eat humans or do the other thing.
 
The person that played Captain Batel also played Wynonna Earp. Considering how often ads of her show on played on CTV-SciFi channel (oh how I loathe that name, that channel was already perfectly branded as Space!), I’m surprised I did not recognize her.

Archer sure has a lot of things named after him. How come we never see a USS T’Pol or USS Phlox or USS Hoshi Sato or USS Soval or USS Maxwell Forrest or USS Zefram Cochrane in these Kurtzman shows? Yet Stamets from Discovery has a shuttlecraft named after him already?

How did Spock reach Earth so quickly? This is like how Archer reach Qonos in a few days when Qonos is a thousand light years away from Earth.

So that footage of Washington D.C., NYC, and Paris being destroyed in 2053 were in real time huh? Wow.

I like that the events of DIS S2 finale had far reaching consequences and was the reason for this episode. This is how you get the audience to care about what is happening.

There definitely seems to be a lot of energy in this show. Like they learned from the Kelvin movies and Discovery and struck a balance.

Not sure how to judge this as it seems like we are still being introduced to characters, such as Hemmer. But I like the direction the show is trending in, and is something I can see myself rewatching over and over again.
 
One witness who was a child who experience extreme trauma and was found on a life boat.

I doubt they went through with her giving Pike a vivid recollection to call her a liar later on.

None of the other series ever said they don't eat humans or do the other thing.

Just because a show hasn't said something before doesn't make it a good idea to include it now.
 
Isn't that what the transporter is for?
....touché.

We were talking about SNW in context with TOS.
That doesn't make any sense. ENT exists in this universe and it had human-rated transporters. Ergo transporters weren't new. Also there's nothing in TOS to indicate that they were.

I’m a bit confused at what happened to the Archer’s crew: we’re there only three of them? And how did they get imprisoned?

Yes there were only three; Number One explains the circumstances of their imprisonment.

Further, putting a spoiler tag in a thread that already allows for SNW spoilers (check the title), one could assume that what I placed a spoiler tag over was not related to SNW or the SNW episode being discussed. But maybe that's just how I picture what spoiler tags might be for.
Why are you being so defensive? You don't think it's reasonable to assume that spoilers in this thread relate to this series? How was I to know?
 
Goodness, someone needs a timeout! Or maybe less caffeine!
"Your logic is flawed" isn't some mental breakdown. It's a statement of fact. That you don't like it doesn't entitle you to psychoanalyse people.

Let's do some simple math for you. The US and USSR each have enough destroy the world MULTIPLE times over. Yet, only 1/3 of humans were killed. By definition, that is limited and not all out. If it was all out, there'd be no one left alive. 100% destroyed.
Again, that doesn't follow. You're assuming that any nuclear exchange would use their entire stockpile. We don't even know who the participants were or what the events leading up to it were.
 
So yeah. Pretty good. But am I understanding this right...they reverse engineered warp technology by looking at some ships with their telescopes?! You must be joking.

Maybe they were "inspired" by what they saw and they had instruments that were able to detect anti-matter and put two and two together.
 
A 600 million death toll isn't even a third of the world's population as it would probably stand in the middle of the 21st century, either in the Trek universe or our reality. I guess Pike could have gotten his numbers wrong or he counted the injured and maimed and those directly impacted by severe radiation sickness but, yeah, Trek descriptions of the Third World War tend to be incomplete or conflict with one another.
 
Has anyone figured out what the "wipe under the eye" gesture that M'Benga and La'an shared in sickbay meant?

I just re-watched that scene and still don't see how Chapel had time to create these gene-altering injections seeing as the plan of going down to the planet in disguise seemed to have just been made in the conference room. Ad how would she know enough about the natives to make Pike and Co. look like them on a genetic level? I get why they went further than using simple cosmetic alterations so the problem with Spock's disguise could pose a problem later, but these things could have been better explained.
 
Yeah, but it's just a name at that point. The name Gorn was mentioned to Archer 104 years earlier with no repercussions and at this point even Starfleet doesn't know for sure what the Gorn are or if contact's even happened.
Wasn’t that in the mirror universe?
 
I just re-watched that scene and still don't see how Chapel had time to create these gene-altering injections seeing as the plan of going down to the planet in disguise seemed to have just been made in the conference room.
Who knows how fast 23rd century tech works in these matters? Besides, as mentioned before editing can be misleading sometimes.

As for how they had their DNA on file... I have no idea.
 
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