It probably didn't.Let's hope some of it goes into good story writing as well
Well, not to Trek fan standards anyway.
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Well, not to Trek fan standards anyway.
Let's hope some of it goes into good story writing as well
To be serious for a moment: I don't think the budget for the writers was a problem - Bryan Fuller & Michael Chabon ain't cheap.
I think the problem was more like taking a NYT-best-selling author and let him write an episode of Xena.
He ain't gonna' impress his literature buddies with it. But at the same time - it probably won't be the best episode of 'Xena' either - because he's gonna' put a lot of award-society-people stuff in it, but also is gonna' probably miss or misunderstand a ton of shit that's important to the Xena-fandom.
I'm sure this has probably been posted before, but in case anyone hasn't seen it:
https://twitter.com/trekyards/status/1521717975157551105
A comparison of the original John Eaves and Scott Schneider design for the Enterprise that was submitted, and the final version that was used (they changed the design without their knowledge). The original is much closer to a pre-TOS Enterprise. Just take out the thicker nacelle pylon.
https://twitter.com/trekyards/status/1521717975157551105
A comparison of the original John Eaves and Scott Schneider design for the Enterprise that was submitted, and the final version that was used (they changed the design without their knowledge). The original is much closer to a pre-TOS Enterprise. Just take out the thicker nacelle pylon.
I honestly prefer that one. The thicker pylons look better with those nacelles.
Both look roughly the same and I had to stare at it for a minute to play "Spot the Differences."
So, basically, as we knew, the production changed virtually nothing of significance about the Eaves design other than the pylons and the color treatment.
That's a nice model by Marc Bell, BTW, and you can find scads of detailed renders of it on his Patreon page (the url is on the image). He does lots of Trek ships, and the work is brilliant.
You can read many a case of how much and how little the various FX producers and the actually FX suppliers have modified a ton of ships versus the approved art department design. Hell this happened even before CGI fx, and the model builders would also make some adjustments.
I don't mind the thicker pylons for a ship that is supposed to be a precursor to TOS. Pylons and other supports got thinner as the materials for building starships became more refined.
Yeah, all sorts of things are routinely modified during production and post-production. If a producer signs off on something and says "I want it exactly this way," that's one thing. But I've heard set and prop designers complain many times about how they drew something they thought was really nifty and only found out later that it was fabricated differently, often for "good reasons" that didn't satisfy them at all.
Yeah but pictures are virtually identical except for a minor lighting / coloring difference, and the nacelle pylons.
I will admit that the pylons are my biggest and honestly only major complaint with the new Disco Enterprise. On the screens of the Discovery in Discovery season 2, it appears the original orthos with the straight-slit pylons was what was on the Bridge displays; but as others have said, the type of changes made in post-production were not unusual, and in the end I've made my peace with what it is and it's not going to affect my enjoyment of Strange New Worlds in any way.
I will admit that the pylons are my biggest and honestly only major complaint with the new Disco Enterprise. On the screens of the Discovery in Discovery season 2, it appears the original orthos with the straight-slit pylons was what was on the Bridge displays; but as others have said, the type of changes made in post-production were not unusual, and in the end I've made my peace with what it is and it's not going to affect my enjoyment of Strange New Worlds in any way.
I don't love the squashed proportions, or the angled pylons - not because they don't match TOS, but because they're such random borrowing from ST:TMP and rather poorly redesigned - or the exaggerated and in some areas crude-looking texture maps, or the "plant-on" pennants. But I'm learning to like the ship anyway. I do love the blended contouring of the saucer top, and the windows, and the sensor dish and a lot of other details.
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From what I know that happens all the time. It’s concept art, it’s rarely ever final.
Yeah they submit it and changes are made. Like the Kelvinprise being designed at 366m but JJ wanted to shoot in a brewery and the shuttles had been designed Runabout sized so plans changed and the ship was modified to reflect that.
Now I always assumed the individual model builder (be it physical model or cgi model) had leeway for any number of reasons to make changes to approved designs, especially on ships of the weeks. Things like we ran out of time, or this shape is easier to create. Or we can't fabricate that mold as easily.
But I was surprised to see it can even happen to much more prominent models. I seriously expected the Hero ship to need to have every little detail signed off, and that hasn't been the case (though I would suspect its much rarer to see significant structural changes versus the addition of surface details).
But I was surprised to see it can even happen to much more prominent models. I seriously expected the Hero ship to need to have every little detail signed off, and that hasn't been the case (though I would suspect its much rarer to see significant structural changes versus the addition of surface details).
it's pretty ugly lol
USS Archer NCC-627
I wonder if it's a Scout or Destroyer?
USS Archer NCC-627
I never liked the idea of Starfleet using the term "Destroyer" and I can't recall it ever being used in any iteration of the show. I'd prefer the term "Frigate" instead.
Either way it's a nice little homage to the Franz Joseph design but I'd like more info on it, drawings plans, sizes (assuming the nacelle isn't just the same as the Enterprises with a blue Bussard). The saucer appears deeper but it may be just the way it looks in the shot.
I guess it might be considered a Scout, since they were there to observe the planet.
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