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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x09 - "Hide and Seek"

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If Trek was real, The ENT-D would not have gone down so easily as it did.
For one thing, Worf would have had the sensibility to check for scanning devices or signs of tampering of Geordi's visor... and given the crew's history with the Klingon sisters in the past, it would have been prudent.

Second, even if that failed, the Klingons only used this to scan for shield frequencies (why not use it to tap into the main computer more easily?)... which the ENT-D crew should have accounted for and info on shield frequencies would would have been classified for the duration of the battle (aka, only accessible to the bridge crew, and not to engineering).

Third, a measly strike of a single phaser beam from the ENT-D was pathetic to say the least. A more sensible Riker would have ordered a full spread of phasers (set to continuous firing) and photon torpedoes... which would likely not only penetrate the BoP shields but also destroy it in the process after such a barrage.
Even with shields down, the ENT-D should have survived with 'some' damage - in the movie, Riker effectively allowed the enemy to keep bombarding the ENT-D until a critical section was hit.

Without shields any ship is toast after all a photon torpedo is a photon torpedo regardless if it is fired from old bird of prey or horse drawn cart....
 
Yet he watches each week and spends more time thinking and talking about the show than most of us here do.

He is a devoted and appreciative fan with 3 million subscribers and his reviews are usually positive.

This the first time in history he has given nwa pwna.

(french for zero points. I learnt it from Eurovision)
 
I've got a feeling the FBI Guy will be back next week. I have no way to prove this or explain it, but this is what I think nonetheless. Something was planted there. Like Riker in Season 1.
To be honest, I hope you're wrong about that. I just don't see what FBI guy can add that the other players couldn't. What unique purpose would he serve? Without a unique purpose that no one else could fill, he just becomes an additional element muddying the waters in a conclusion that already needs to be extra tight.

Maybe a unique purpose exists. I guess we'll see.
 
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This the first time in history he has given nwa pwna.

This might be the first time, he's actually given an episode a zero but most of his Picard reviews are very negative. Angry Joe has consistently ranted against Picard for awhile now. He basically hates the show, especially this season but he hated last season too.
 
Sure, if you don't want to use the transporter for anything else. Seven did the right thing.
I’d just beam them into the stratosphere. At least they’d get to live for another few minutes.

Maybe beam some recording devices up with them so they can record their wills and say their goodbyes.
 
So, back to the episode: how come three people with 24th century firepower can't take out a bunch of machine guns? What ever happen to wide field setting?

And why was holo-Elnor afraid of getting hit with bullets? He's a hologram. He should have just gone all "choose to live" on the Borg drones without care.
 
Without shields any ship is toast after all a photon torpedo is a photon torpedo regardless if it is fired from old bird of prey or horse drawn cart....

Not accurate.
Federation ships have been shown to survive barrages of torpedoes with shields down.
Voyager was able to withstand multiple chroniton torpedoes impacting the hull and still surviving for a year at least.
The ENT-D ended up taking multiple blaster hits by a measly BoP (which was described as being also somewhat outdated vs ENT-D) and a torpedo or two.
Riker literally waited until the BoP incurred sufficient damage which led to a Warp Core breach.
 
This might be the first time, he's actually given an episode a zero but most of his Picard reviews are very negative. Angry Joe has consistently ranted against Picard for awhile now. He basically hates the show, especially this season but he hated last season too.
He's certainly succeeded in getting people to talk about him, which I'm sure is all he really cares about. I have no intention of watching his nonsense to find out.
 
So, back to the episode: how come three people with 24th century firepower can't take out a bunch of machine guns? What ever happen to wide field setting?

That was apparently long forgotten by the writers.
Many things which UFP technology was demonstrated it was capable of doing was described on multiple occasions, but the VFX department and the writers never showed it - probably because it would have destroyed whatever 'twists' they came up with in the story too easily because they hadn't thought about the technology and creating problematic circumstances that would circumvent such technology in a semi realistic capacity... so they just ended up not using it, and then forgetting it.

And why was holo-Elnor afraid of getting hit with bullets? He's a hologram. He should have just gone all "choose to live" on the Borg drones without care.

I have no idea. To be fair, I hadn't even thought about that. But its possible that given how easily the Queen disrupted Elnor's matrix with one of her tentacles, its possible he wasn't so 'invulnerable' to physical attacks.
Maybe Confederation holo technology is less advanced than the Federation's.
 
Eh, Isa Briones is cute, but there's been more sexual energy from Jurati and the effin Borg Queen this season.
I'm all for characters with sexual energy. I was more thinking that all Kobe scenes seemed to involve her is some sort of underwear/swimsuit. Maybe it's just normal in L.A. and it only stands out to me because where I live everyone is so excited about the 15oC week we are having.
 
He's certainly succeeded in getting people to talk about him, which I'm sure is all he really cares about. I have no intention of watching his nonsense to find out.

With 3.3 million subscribers and a 100k views JUST TODAY already he does not need the attention and is very rich with an income of at least $1000 a day. He loves Star trek BUT IS VERY DISAPPOINTED.

The first 2 episodes seemed promising but since then its fallen of a cliff.The writing is very very bad.

In any case a new guy called UKdangerman has arrived on the scene and he does a very funny Picard Voice. i just subscribed to his channel and listened to all his reviews which are VERY FUNNY. Funnier than redlettermedia

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I find myself frustrated with Tallinn as well. They didn't really do a damn thing with her, considering she got two episodes of buildup. She creeps on Renee until she doesn't any more, and just acts as a sounding board for Picard. Rios, Jurati, and Seven have all at least gotten some semblance of a character arc.
I seriously wonder if Tallinn and particularly her being a Watcher ala Gary Seven wasn't a late addition. They need a 24th century "local" to have access to technology (especially transporters) and other abilities like the mind meld with Picard when our crew didn't have access to that (because of the BQ lockout, etc).

So, they created a local who'd have those things/abilities. Then it became an Easter Egg to make her a Watcher--even though quite clearly she's not like Gary Seven in any meaningful way. He was an agent who was expected to physically get stuff done as needed while she just watched and did nothing while the timeline was being subverted.

So, I think Tallinn was a plot device driven by necessity and then elaborated upon to be fun Easter Egg. I have no evidence for that other than what was onscreen. But it makes sense.
 
He is a devoted and appreciative fan with 3 million subscribers and his reviews are usually positive.
Why should I care? No, seriously, why? The number of viewers/subscribers means jack to me. Give me your honest view, your actual opinion and engage in discussion about it rather than a random video of a guy miming suicide.
This might be the first time, he's actually given an episode a zero but most of his Picard reviews are very negative. Angry Joe has consistently ranted against Picard for awhile now. He basically hates the show, especially this season but he hated last season too.

So, back to the episode: how come three people with 24th century firepower can't take out a bunch of machine guns? What ever happen to wide field setting?

And why was holo-Elnor afraid of getting hit with bullets? He's a hologram. He should have just gone all "choose to live" on the Borg drones without care.
Wide field setting rarely gets used, just like ship phasers set on stun. It's only useful if the plot calls for it.

How was holo-Elnor generated? If based off of Elnor would the hologram be self-aware or just have his reactions like Elnor would, including self-preservation, rather than just being a self-aware hologram.
 
A lot of people who don't like this show are blaming Alex Kurtzman and the writers, who they accuse of not really liking or understanding Star Trek. But they never mention Patrick Stewart and the enormous amount of creative control he has.

Historically, Patrick Stewart has always been trying to change Picard into a different sort of character. You know revenge-obsessed, phaser-rifle-toting, dune-buggy-driving Picard from the movies, the guy a lot of fans complained about because he's so different from TNG Picard? That was all Patrick Stewart's doing! And now he's doing it again on this show.

What's happening to Jean-Luc Picard now is what would have happened to the character of Captain Kirk in the mid-90s if Paramount had decided to film the Shatnerverse novels and give William Shatner the control he wanted.

And Stewart may be nicer to work with than Shatner was, but he's still an actor who's primarily focused on himself and his character, which means that the writers and producers are obligated to bend over backward to incorporate his ideas, even if they're not the best thing for the show.
 
A lot of people who don't like this show are blaming Alex Kurtzman and the writers, who they accuse of not really liking or understanding Star Trek. But they never mention Patrick Stewart and the enormous amount of creative control he has.

Historically, Patrick Stewart has always been trying to change Picard into a different sort of character. You know revenge-obsessed, phaser-rifle-toting, dune-buggy-driving Picard from the movies, the guy a lot of fans complained about because he's so different from TNG Picard? That was all Patrick Stewart's doing! And now he's doing it again on this show.

What's happening to Jean-Luc Picard now is what would have happened to the character of Captain Kirk in the mid-90s if Paramount had decided to film the Shatnerverse novels and give William Shatner the control he wanted.

And Stewart may be nicer to work with than Shatner was, but he's still an actor who's primarily focused on himself and his character, which means that the writers and producers are obligated to bend over backward to incorporate his ideas, even if they're not the best thing for the show.
Here's the thing that I see-Patrick Stewart is basically a protected class of a person. He is not allowed to be blamed for anything, including the unusual choices in the TNG films.

Kurtzman is persona non grata in the Star Trek well, the devil to all things good and Treky. He is absolutely the person to be blamed, whether it is reasonable or not. People always need a villain and it won't be Stewart.
 
We know from Episode 1 the Borg came out of some sort of temporal anomaly. That suggests time travel, but it could be between universes to boot.

Plus we know that Borg-Jurati said "one Renee must live, the other must die" - that suggests that she thinks that the Confederation has to come into being in order for her to have some hope for survival. Maybe it's just because the garden-variety Borg would wipe them out in Prime? It's been established Queens can see across multiple universes now, and Jurati also gained that power in this episode, so she presumably knows the scenario by which the "nice Borg" can remain in existence.

So they simultaneously need to ensure Renee lives (so Prime is restored) and that she dies (so the Confederation is restored). Dramatically speaking, following the characters in the second is more interesting.
So I'm leaning towards the anomaly in episode one being between universes and not time travel. I think you're right that somehow both timelines exist. The Federation/Prime of course. But also an altered Confederation, because the originally the Borg were wiped out. Presumably, BQJ use their knowledge and change the future of that timeline and 400 years pass as they build up the friendly Borg.

Then the BQJ Borg jump to the Prime timeline in Episode 1.

If that's all true, one Renee must live and the other must die. Not sure how. But also the events we're seeing during the current season, including the Borg bodies in the wall, would be present in both timelines because they branch off at a later point. (It's like how ENT is still canon in the JJ movies and the Prime universe.) And that's where I wasn't following you.
 
True, but I'd imagine it can differentiate between a gas and solid matter. Or not, and the transporter is even more dangerous to use than I had imagined. :lol:

In TOS's "The Cage" Spock said a line that suggests that someone could end up being beamed inside solid rock if the wrong destination was entered into the transporter.

By the 24/25th century they very likely corrected this problem, but any number of things can still happen to cause this, such as bypassing all saftey protocols like Seven did here.

The fusing of two objects into each other is plauseable because humans and other "solid" matter are really clouds with atoms spaced far apart. You can also hear the walls crumble a bit when the drones were beamed into them which suggest that there was some pushing and repulsion going on between atoms before everything settled.

But having them materialise as perfectly still statues, that's much harder to believe as there would be wriggling and moans of pain coming from some of them as they die a slow, much more painful than it looks death. If the transporter can stop all movements inside a living organism, why beam them into the wall for a young Picard, or the workers who will renovate the place to find?
 
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