Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x08 - "Mercy"

[gweeps]

Glad I’m not the only one then.

I think that it ties in well with the fact that Q has never been good or evil, he just is. It seeming like quite an evil act for the majority of the season then turning out to be a twisted way to help Picard work through his greatest hidden pain would be a very Q thing to do.

Q still shows outward disdain for bipeds.

I rewatched DS9's 'Q-Less' a few days ago. I'd forgotten Q essentially tortured Vash when she said she'd be fine without him. He made her again feel the effects of that sickness Q had cured her of on that one planet. A little corporeal punishment.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Sure, Q has disdain for Vash. But that doesn't mean he hates ALL humanoids.

It just means she deserved it.

 

[Happenstance]

Q still shows outward disdain for bipeds.

I rewatched DS9's 'Q-Less' a few days ago. I'd forgotten Q essentially tortured Vash when she said she'd be fine without him. He made her again feel the effects of that sickness Q had cured her of on that one planet. A little corporeal punishment.

Yeah my point isn’t perfect at all but in his own weird Q way he did that to Vash because he liked her.

 

[gweeps]

Sure, Q has disdain for Vash. But that doesn't mean he hates ALL humanoids.

It just means she deserved it.

For whatever reason, he truly hates Guinan.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ And if there's some reason Q can't do to Guinan what he did to Vash...I'd love to hear it.

 

[gweeps]

Yeah my point isn’t perfect at all but in his own weird Q way he did that to Vash because he liked her.

Yeah, I think so, too.

I think John de Lancie said he thought Q shouldn't be chasing skirts or something. But I think what was unspoken by the writers is that Q needs an attachment to mortality. If it's not Picard, it's somebody else. Anything to break up the monotony because "We've all been the scarecrow!"

 

[gweeps]

^ And if there's some reason Q can't do to Guinan what he did to Vash...I'd love to hear it.

He snapped his fingers at her 3 times. He gave it the good ol' college try.

 

[Mr Awe]

Maybe some day it will. Again, not trying to be flip but I don't treat Star Trek as a "really intelligent series." It can have smart episodes but it was never the smartest kid in the room, as it where, at least not to me.

And that's the power of story. We take in meaning whether to the story means it or not. I prefer that over trusting the writers of something that they themselves may not see in terms of poignancy.

We agree!

 

[eschaton]

Rios's storyline has just gotten dumb and pointless. I like how it started out but still don't get why he would bring the doctor and her son onto his ship.

He brought them onto the ship so they can be endangered by the Borg in the last two episodes.

Oh, you mean why he would want to do that, not why the writers would want to do that?

 

[fireproof78]

Why would Rios bring someone onboard his ship?

Hmmm...let's think. A human being, thrown in to an uncomfortable situation, finds solace in a personal connection despite very different backgrounds and wants to share something that is very special to him with the person he loves?

Nope, no sane reason I can see whatsoever.

 

[Anduinel]

The "mystery box" style of the show still annoys me when I think about it. Instead of dragging out what was going on with Q for the whole season, having Q tell Picard in episode 2 that he was dying and was giving him/humanity one last trial would have worked better for me than him just speaking in riddles to Picard.

They're also teasing out information as "reveals" that either aren't worth the build up, or, as with Raffi and Seven's relationship issues, should have been presented as basic character motivations early on. And it all just adds to the feeling that full-on serialized storytelling just isn't a good fit for Trek.

 

[Vasquez Rocks]

Why would Rios bring someone onboard his ship?

Hmmm...let's think. A human being, thrown in to an uncomfortable situation, finds solace in a personal connection despite very different backgrounds and wants to share something that is very special to him with the person he loves?

Nope, no sane reason I can see whatsoever.

And in the process he messes up the timeline and countless lives for a woman he met for what a couple hours..two days, but as long as he's happy and comforted. Sorry, I don't buy this love story.

 

[gweeps]

And in the process he messes up the timeline and countless lives for a woman he met for what a couple hours..two days, but as long as he's happy and comforted. Sorry, I don't buy this love story.

Then again, I think, if they escape (as Q put it) properly, then it won't matter what they incidentally did, though the 29th century timecops will be pulling out their hair again.

 

[Kilana2]

Well, I can see why Rios prefers to kiss Teresa instead of Agnes. Who wants to kiss the Borg Queen in disguise voluntarily? Except Data, of course....

 

[DaveyNY]

Soong's UV Shields would have blocked the Xindi Probe from turning Florida into a trench.

Sorry.

Soong's UV Shields would have blocked the Xindi Probe from turning Florida into a bigger trench.

I would surmise that it is becoming very clear why Florida becomes the Xindi's prime target.

 

[fireproof78]

And in the process he messes up the timeline and countless lives for a woman he met for what a couple hours..two days, but as long as he's happy and comforted. Sorry, I don't buy this love story.

You don't buy it and that's fine.

Humans do stupid shit in the name of love.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I hope he goes back to the future and finds out that some of his friends just don't exist anymore because of all the butterflies he's been stomping on in the name of love.

I mean obviously I'm joking, but if I was Admiral Hardgrit and I had a full report of his actions during this time travel adventure, I'd be seriously rethinking who gets the comfiest seat on the Stargazer bridge from now on.

 

[urbandefault]

How do the Vulcans that landed in 20 centuary earth suddenly have acces to transporter technology? Ist that technology supposed to emerge much later? Or are they time travelers as well?

The Vulcan Science Directorate has determined that time travel is not possible.

 

[fireproof78]

I hope he goes back to the future and finds out that some of his friends just don't exist anymore because of all the butterflies he's been stomping on in the name of love.

I mean obviously I'm joking, but if I was Admiral Hardgrit and I had a full report of his actions during this time travel adventure, I'd be seriously rethinking who gets the comfiest seat on the Stargazer bridge from now on.

Rios is just living in the bold adventurous spirit of Kirk, Janeway and Sisko.

"In the future, try to avoid time travel."

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Janeway almost let an entire planet explode to protect the timeline.