Bad Starship Names
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Or the comparatively unknown American monkeys, or the multitude of sacrificial animals employed by various countries.
Can we at least honor the memory of the dog, regardless of what we think of the pricks who sent her up?
Animals (and humans) have perished in the process of space exploration. But as far as I know, Laika was the only one who was sent on what was known to be a one-way trip. The others died because of malfunctions.
There is a Starfleet ship in one of the novels called the USS Bill of Rights.
I mean, obviously that's a fine document in and of itself, just seems rather pretentious to name a SHIP after it.
Yeah, I remember that. Even then, I thought it was the silliest starship name.
We've had shuttles and starships named after genocidal conquerors like Columbus and Cortez (although the latter is a rather common surname, so perhaps there was a more respectable historical figure with that name in the 21st or 22nd century).
It's debatable if they count, but Memory Alpha notes some okudagrams displaying shuttles named after Von Braun (who was a nazi) and Lindberg (who was a white supremacist and eugenicist, with a noted association with the nazi party himself)
You just sort of type things that pop into your head, right?
anyway,
USS Nova. Sounds like "does not go" in Spanish. Fortunately the aliens all speak English, but that still must give the Universal Translator a workout.
I really don't see the point of ships named after warships that were not really involved in exploration or science be it Lexington, Potemkin, Defiant, Yamato, Enterprise, etc. But you can't get more foundational to star trek, so that is how it is.
It's the name of the main ship of Axanar.In what way?
But I doubt that would stop anyone from ever using the name in one of the new shows.
Most people don't even know about that Axanar crap anyway.
It is quite possible that Tȟašúŋke Witkó, or Crazy Horse, is a revered figure in Lakota Sioux history. But do you think that Crazy Horse is revered in Arikraa or Pawnee or Crow or Shoshone history? Or maybe members of those tribes or nations think of crazy Horse as a famous historic enemy of their ancestors.
And whether you think that someone historic fought for your people or against your people you should not rever them if they committed atrocities and war crimes. And just about all the Indian warriors west of the Mississippi - with the prominent exception of the Nez Perce in 1877 - didn't have any ethical objections to committing even the worst atrocities. For a modern Sioux to revere Crazy Horse becaus ehe fought for the glory of the Lakota is like Ensign Checkov revering Vladimir "Ras" Putin because Putin forught for the greater glory of Russia.
I also point out that leaders of most tribes and bands of the Lakota Sioux acknowledied the overlordshp of the Federal governmetn of the USA in ealrier treaties. And so when members of those bands attacked other subjects of the USA they were committing treason against the USA, just as all Rebel soldiers were committing treason.
And I think the US soldiers and officers and political leaders of the mid 19th century don't get nearly enough credit for their lenience and mercy. Not only did they crush the Southern Rebellion and the rebellions of many tribes in the west, but - with the exception of General Wright in 1858 - they did it without executing people for treason or excuting people for war war crimes against US soldiers, and only executed or imprisoned Indian warriors for crimes against civilians, and only in a minority of cases.
So I think that the 19th century USA doesn't get enough credit for its unusual degree of mercy which, for example, prevented Crazy Horse from being executed for treason or murder.
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The hard part is if they think it refers to the strip club in Paris.
I might be mistaken but there has never been a warship called 'Defiant' except in film. As for 'Enterprise' there is :-
HMS Enterprise (1848) - Wikipedia which was involved in some exploration, True most vessels named Enterprise have been first and foremost warships
There is a Starfleet ship in one of the novels called the USS Bill of Rights.
I mean, obviously that's a fine document in and of itself, just seems rather pretentious to name a SHIP after it.
Could have been worse could have been the USS Fundamental Declatation of the Martian Colonies.
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There was a British World War II fighter plane called the Defiant, though that was a class rather than an individual plane.
There is a current HMS Enterprise in the Royal Navy, and she is a hydrographic/oceanographic survey ship – an explorer and research ship in other words.
Neither should General Zhukov.
