You're all wrong! Obviously, the Bus Punk is also an El-Aurian, and he touched his neck because he was feeling the echoes of the other timeline.
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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x04 - "Watcher"
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You're all wrong! Obviously, the Bus Punk is also an El-Aurian, and he touched his neck because he was feeling the echoes of the other timeline.
I know, but who cares if they get mad or glad. I don't personally mind if the neckbeards or whoever likes or dislikes a movie or show I am watching. I only care that I like it. I am not going to give something a pass just because Cletus the Redneck Youtuber has tears falling into his beard.
The Confederation was able to completely eradicate the entire Borg Collective. The whale probe seems like a much smaller threat.
I did like the interaction between Jurati and the Queen... though I do think the Queen is behaving way too much like a 'relaxed Human' with all the expressions and words of those native to the 21st century.
I mean, she's a borg Queen... even disconnected from the Hive, I can understand she would behave a bit differently, but not as 'human' as she is now... though, to me it also looks like she's trying to manipulate Jurati because the Queen was impressed by her... so her more human behavior could potentially be explained to that... and if Agnes does talk with the queen like she promised, she might end up 'slowly assimilated'... but not quite like the Queen intended... and this could lead to Agnes becoming a new Queen and a different Collective.
I mean, she's a borg Queen... even disconnected from the Hive, I can understand she would behave a bit differently, but not as 'human' as she is now... though, to me it also looks like she's trying to manipulate Jurati because the Queen was impressed by her... so her more human behavior could potentially be explained to that... and if Agnes does talk with the queen like she promised, she might end up 'slowly assimilated'... but not quite like the Queen intended... and this could lead to Agnes becoming a new Queen and a different Collective.
Is it? I don’t see the 24th century federation eradicating the borg…
they might have found a workaround.
Q did nothing.
Picard will create the confederation, or be nudged at the last moment and not make the Confederation.
Q also says that Picard needs to pay "penance".
Picard from three days from "now" is the problem.
That's what the Amazon captions and X-Ray said according to a friend.
Yes, it's indeed possible that Picard's own actions caused the TL to come into being. That would have to be choosing not to intervene with the auto-destruct at the end of Episode 1 with the weird veiled queen though. Even if Q didn't create the timeline himself, he assuredly did "rescue" them by plunking them into their Confederation alters and giving them a method to travel back in time and un-fuck things. Without doing that, how could Picard have gotten to 2024 and caused the change?
I had issues with that in this episode more than the previous one. Like I posted. She felt more snarky than sinister like she did last week.
This is something that's been talked about a lot in relation to the Kelvin Timeline. My take is that we've seen enough visitors from alternate futures in Star Trek (both ones who intentionally and incidentally avert their own existence) that it's to be expected that every time travel story we've seen in the various alternate Trek timelines (from before the point of divergence) always happen, even if the version of Trek the time-travelers came from is averted. Data's head should still be under San Francisco now, even if Data ends up never being built, just like how Admiral Janeway didn't vanish when Voyager got home early, or old Alexander wasn't forgotten by everyone when Worf didn't get murdered, or Daniels was still able to visit the NX-01 even though he was from a version of history where Archer never had to deal with Future Guy's schemes.
Jurati mentioned in the second episode the Confederation tech is similar to UFP's... and given how easily the Queen dispatched those 2 Confederacy ships... I have to question how were they able to defeat the Collective when going up against Cubes etc.
Though admittedly, it may not have been a direct attack.
The UFP is not bent on genocide, and missed a few opportunities to possibly eliminate the Borg as a threat... opportunities which the Confederacy could have taken (such as that geometrical issue that had the potential to destroy the collective from the inside out)... and I guess the Confederacy could have appropriated one of their damaged ships or found TW conduits and managed to claw their way (somehow) to the Queen.
All in all, it still seems a little easy given how resilient the Borg were portrayed as in the UFP timeline.
Yes, I suppose that's possible (as I mentioned, the Confederacy likely never banned certain technology and weapons which could have been effective against the Whale Probe and also maybe the Collective).
I think the Borg Queen is a dumb concept, even in First Contact (I always liked the planetside half with Zephram Cochrane more) but she's acting more like Voyager Borg Queen than FC Borg Queen.
I like the Borg Queen but it does take some doing to make her seem credible and not just some hammy baddie in all black being to arch. I like her in First Contact because it was a new concept for the Borg at the time. Voyager overused her but then again they overused the Borg in general. I liked how they wrote her last week on Picard but not so much this week so the Queen has been all over the place in Trek.
The original concept of the Borg (without a Queen) made sense. Even Troi back then mentioned that they are a collective mind, because leaders tend to make mistakes... and the Borg was more prone to 'mistakes' since the Queen was introduced as a concept.
I tried to explain it away as an 'experiment' on behalf of the Collective... aka that it created a Queen to see if there might be some benefit to her in 'coordinating' the Collective after encountering UFP but that eventually they might decide to discard her and just return to the original 'Queenless' Collective.
Q is moving pieces around on the board, but truthfully, you know that he want's Picard to Succeed.
Why? I don't see people complaining about the message or the values of the story, merely the craft or the execution, which seems fair game.
Though personally I'm liking it all, with one issue -- we've now had two LOL moments of comic slapstick violence for Rios in this story. I find it such a bizarre choice to include multiple Homer-Simpson-style pain & injury moments in a story that is about so much real pain & violence.
Though, Santiago Cabrera is so good at playing them, I would love if this became a running bit for his character. Once we get out of a real ICE detention center and back to a fantastical future.
Isn't the black & white aliens episode mostly famous for a clunky, overdone script? Let's not let that particular one be the model for how the writing should go today...
You don't understand: If it's been done on Trek before, you're not allowed to complain about it. Ever. Otherwise you're either a hypocrite or the anti-Christ (anti-Gene?) or something.
Unless it's turning into a salamander when you hit warp 10.
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