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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x13 - "Coming Home"

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Stacey's cameo was a bit of a surprise. I mean, not an unwelcome one, but it did take me out for a split second.

That probably worked better for those of us not in the US because I had no idea who she was when I first saw her. Reading up on the episode after viewing, however, I did think it was an odd choice, and I'm left wondering what political point they're trying to make.
 
So the Discovery Crew are just idiots...

Yea, I can buy that.
Wouldn't be the first time.

I mean, the truly ridiculous part will be next season when they are totally capable of reconstructing the Disco spore drive that blew up in this episode, and yet somehow still unable to replicate it on any other ships. "Tarka had all the plans with him!" :biggrin:
They already have the plans for Spore Drive Version 2. I doubt Tarka would be allowed to delete plans, he can contribute, but that kind of information stays hard written for backup purposes.

They can upgrade Discovery with the improved Version 2 Spore Drive that's barely larger than a toaster.

No more needing to put in cannisters of Myclium Spores or they can use the Spores for a new form of Transporter style teleportation technology to get people from A to B.

Something different that they can do with the Spore Chamber Tech.
 
That probably worked better for those of us not in the US because I had no idea who she was when I first saw her. Reading up on the episode after viewing, however, I did think it was an odd choice, and I'm left wondering what political point they're trying to make.
It's a bit of an odd choice from the position of politics. I mean, she's running for Governor of Georgia, so it kind of feels like a bit of a showboat, some straight up politicking, but, and I have to stress this, she has long established herself as a Trekkie, and I will gladly applaud anyone who wants to involve themselves in pushing the edict that not only is a better world possible, but it is achievable. It's not enough to dream, we have to work toward it, and to do it together.

I honestly don't even agree with a number of her political choices, but I can agree with her on that, and I can celebrate that as it is.
 
I went with a 9, maybe should have been an 8.

There were some nitpicks for sure. A little too emo here. A little too convenient there (Grudge's collar can get us out! A wormhole! OK, now I get how selfish I was being, you guys go back!, OK, I guess the communication stuff is no problem now!).

But overall I think it was easily the best finale for DISCO. I was just so happy it didn't totally suck I may have been overhyped. Plus, Stacey Abrams!!

The Tilly/Vance scene was great, as was the Saru stuff.
 
Wouldn't be the first time.


They already have the plans for Spore Drive Version 2. I doubt Tarka would be allowed to delete plans, he can contribute, but that kind of information stays hard written for backup purposes.

They can upgrade Discovery with the improved Version 2 Spore Drive that's barely larger than a toaster.

No more needing to put in cannisters of Myclium Spores or they can use the Spores for a new form of Transporter style teleportation technology to get people from A to B.

Something different that they can do with the Spore Chamber Tech.
Hopefully season 5 is the end of the spore drive.
 
So that’s who the President was. I admit I have no idea who she is. I thought the reveal was going to be a known character.
 
Yeah, it was a strange moment for me because the scene was set up in a way that made it seem like it was going to be a Trek character I'd recognise. But then I had no idea who she was.

Hopefully season 5 is the end of the spore drive.
Their warp drives are too slow to get around without it!
 
Overall, I thought this was the best season finale of the show so far and even best season.

Having said that, though, I think Discovery is destined to go through permanent growing pains. The show still suffers from a severe pacing issue. I truly believe this season could've been told more tightly in ten episodes and not thirteen. I think there were three episodes that could've been lost and have the important plot elements be absorbed into the remaining ten.
 
Probably could have told this story in 5 episodes. I don’t why each season needs to have some Galaxy ending threat to it. Star Trek was always at its best when they did one off episodes about multiple things
 
That probably worked better for those of us not in the US because I had no idea who she was when I first saw her. Reading up on the episode after viewing, however, I did think it was an odd choice, and I'm left wondering what political point they're trying to make.
She is a huge Star Trek fan, so maybe that's why someoe offered her the cameo.
 
8/10

A fairly solid hour of Star Trek. Great visuals. But nearly every point of contention that was brought up in the episode and the preceding season was pretty much big fat VOY reset buttoned at the end. The only consequence was Tarka's death which he had coming!

Last episode they could barely talk to 10-C; now they can hold long drawn out conversations. Book got away, virtually, with all of the crimes he committed; but it is a common Trek trope that if you save Earth you get a pass. Book got magically saved by 10-C. Spore drive destroyed but 10-C open up a wormhole right to Earth. Nadoya gets not only a pass for helping sabotage Discovery and almost the entire mission but she got to go on a suicide mission to redeem herself. I got the impression I was supposed to be awed by The President of Earth reveal but I did not know who that was. 10-C being explained the error of their ways and just shaping up so quickly...too bad that doesn't work on our real world politicians.

The good: Tilly coming back, Vance warping Starfleet headquarters right to Earth to defend it (took me a few seconds to process it at warp :lol: ), the entire crew getting to participate in things at the end, the wrap story wasn't too bad.

This episode could have served as the series finale easily. Which is what was probably planned just in case. I'd imagine Season 5 will be the end. Seems like just the right amount of time and with all of the new Trek in the pipeline they are gonna have to free up working capital somewhere.
 
Overall, I thought this was the best season finale of the show so far and even best season.

Having said that, though, I think Discovery is destined to go through permanent growing pains. The show still suffers from a severe pacing issue. I truly believe this season could've been told more tightly in ten episodes and not thirteen. I think there were three episodes that could've been lost and have the important plot elements be absorbed into the remaining ten.
There are only ten next season.
 
Hopefully season 5 is the end of the spore drive.
NOPE!

Paul Stamets must wow the world with his intellect and IMPROVE upon the Spore Drive while making the Spore Portal Generator.

DISCO brought the Spore Drive into existence, Paul Stamets must improve upon it!

We'll make Paul Stamets a next generation inventor that will change the world.
 
NOPE!

Paul Stamets must wow the world with his intellect and IMPROVE upon the Spore Drive while making the Spore Portal Generator.

DISCO brought the Spore Drive into existence, Paul Stamets must improve upon it!

We'll make Paul Stamets a next generation inventor that will change the world.
NOPE!

Stamets must expand from his original research and stop intruding in to the mycelial realm.
 
I can see that, back when whatever caused the 10C's near destruction happened, a hardline developed in their unified opinion that caused a dismissal of concern for those creatures that they could not prove by their own standards to be equivalent of themselves. In the time since, through the deaths of individuals of their own, and their contribution to that unity, the point of view moderated enough so that once something was speaking to them in a form of their own language, they couldn't deny it, and they were able to expand their definition of what sapience is.

I have at times struggled with the idea that I must consume life for my own existence to continue. When I tell this to a vegetarian or vegan who is so due to a moral position on killing or eating animals, they often get visibly excited, until I mention that the same thing applies to plants for me. They'll say 'plants don't feel pain' or 'plants can't feel emotions' and they get super defensive if I say something like, 'they don't do those things in a way we recognize, but that doesn't mean they don't, or don't feel something analogous.'

I was hoping that, when the 10C decided that the DMA was too awful, that we would learn that they had created the galactic barrier in the first place, as protection from something they believed came from the galaxy, and were walling it off, and using the DMA to get power to maintain the barrier. I was hoping that they would drop the galactic barrier (which I actually hate as a concept).
 
can see that, back when whatever caused the 10C's near destruction happened, a hardline developed in their unified opinion that caused a dismissal of concern for those creatures that they could not prove by their own standards to be equivalent of themselves. In the time since, through the deaths of individuals of their own, and their contribution to that unity, the point of view moderated enough so that once something was speaking to them in a form of their own language, they couldn't deny it, and they were able to expand their definition
Exactly my point.
 
I liked this episode a lot and agree that it’s Discovery’s best season finale. If I had a criticism, is that it wrapped up everything way too easily and with no consequences. Book was magically saved. Nothing of show changing consequence happened. And overall, I stand by my opinion that this whole DMA arc could have been 3 or 4 episodes long. Part of an Enterprise-style season 4, it would have been great.

I’m curious as to what the plot for season 5 will be as this season gave no hints.
 
A great finale to a fairly good season. Easily DSC’s best overall finale, and the best episode of the entirety of S4.

Honestly, for me, the character of Tarka elevated the whole show this year. I’m a sucker for Trek’s tragic and misguided villains, and Tarka was the most interesting Trek antagonist in a very long time. Bummed he is gone, but he kind of had to be.

Tilly and Vance together was gold. There were a lot of powerful and genuine scenes here, in fact, which is a spot DSC finales have come up a bit short on in the past.

I loved the extremely Trek resolution, while at the same time getting plenty of action and tension and visual eye candy along the way. It was a more toned-down and organic version of the end of S2.

Season: 7/10 (3rd place out of 4)
Season Finale: 10/10 (1st place out of 4)
 
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