Precisely. Hell, she's already telegraphing it with her looks and smirks. Trust the Borg Queen at your peril!
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x02 - "Penance"
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Precisely. Hell, she's already telegraphing it with her looks and smirks. Trust the Borg Queen at your peril!
Janeway knew, maybe it's a captains and above briefing.
That would be a cool twist that a lot of people probably wouldn't even 'get'. I really like the way Flint played a role in the Reeves-Stevens's novel "Federation."
Yeah that was my one gripe for this episode, when Picard mentioned Q they literally didn't even cut to a shot of Seven to show her having any recognition at all. Presumably she's the only other person in their group to have actually encountered him, and given the other deep cut Voyager references this series has given us (reference to the metreon cascade in this episode, mentioning the Sikarian's spatial trajector in season 1, etc) it seems odd that they just glossed over that.
As far as Raffi knowing or not knowing about Q, wouldn't she have to know who he is? I remember Janeway saying to him that "Every captain in Starfleet has been briefed about your appearances on the Enterprise" and she's a captain now.
ETA: I could have sworn Raffi was a captain now in command of the new Excelsior, but apparently I imagined that and she's still just a commander. My bad.
Sisko knew who Q was when he was only a commander.
Janway said in Q's first VOY episode that all captains are briefed on him.
Though Elnor said he read about Q in Picard's biography, so his existence is clearly not classified.
Raffi is a commander and first officer of the excelsior, but her captain apparently is very hands off for fleet communications.
Not to mention she was close friends with Picard for awhile (at least enough to give him a nickname), so you'd think she would be very familiar with him.
Seven had all sorts of Borg superpowers until the scripts needed them forgotten. I think it would have been realistic for Seven to have some sort of advanced mental abilities since a lot of her brain is a Borg computer core. In this reality, though, she's supposed to be human so I wouldn't expect old Seven Shots to be able to do what Seven of Nine might.Seven may be smart and capable, but I'm not sure she was ever 'Spock smart' when it came to mental number crunching to the nth decimal place. Remember how Spock used to annoy his shipmates with that level of un-needed accuracy? And let's not forget, he re-computed the refit Enterprise's intermix formula in his head (according to the novelization, IIRC), to balance the warp drive and allow them to intercept V'ger with enough time to make a difference.
Spock, at least in his TOS science officer days, was a mental giant- probably better than most full Vulcans.
Did Seven actually encounter the "main" Q (on screen at least)? I remember q-Ball beamed her clothes off and she was like, "Meh." Q's other appearances pre-date Seven on the show.
At risk of having to see tiresome decrying of Lower Decks, Q just seems to pop up everywhere. He popped up on Cerritos, and it seemed he had met some of the crew before.
Incidentally, every time I read the term "The Watcher" in this thread, I hear "He was the Doctor all the time" in my head.
At risk of having to see tiresome decrying of Lower Decks, Q just seems to pop up everywhere. He popped up on Cerritos, and it seemed he had met some of the crew before.
Incidentally, every time I read the term "The Watcher" in this thread, I hear "He was the Doctor all the time" in my head.
Rios knows. Not from this episode but when Emil(?) is listing Picard’s accolades in season 1 and says he’s the chief contact with the Q Continuum.
So either it came from Rios’s memory when the holograms imprinted on him or it’s public knowledge that a civilian freighter computer has access to.
It was 4:20, so Raffi missed the 411.
Thought this was excellent. I did admit to wondering why we were getting what amounts to another Mirror Universe storyline when it’s been done so much and so recently on Discovery. But it was nicely executed, and the fact it was set on Earth made it rather more powerful. The pacing and sense of tension was just spot on, and the climatic Trump rally (sorry, sorry, Confederation rally) was quite scary. I’m fact, the whole thing was pretty scary—the world is so turbulent right now and this dystopian future doesn’t seem altogether a stretch.
I was never a fan of the Borg Queen, but this was perhaps the first time I felt she was well used and genuinely menacing. Was delighted at the callbacks to DS9 and began fervently hoping they’d managed to get Avery Brooks to cameo as General Sisko. He’d have been badass as heck. I knew it’d never happen but a guy can dream. If we don’t get at least ONE DS9 character featured somewhere soon, I will riot.
really interested to see where this goes next. So far, it’s definitely derivative ( feels like Mirror Universe plus First Contact put in a blender), but the execution was fantastic and I’m both hooked and hyped. Incidentally, John de Lancie was superb in his all too short scenes, and I had the revelation that Jurati is basically being written as Tilly, only I prefer Tilly. Curious that Soji barely seems to feature this season.
I was never a fan of the Borg Queen, but this was perhaps the first time I felt she was well used and genuinely menacing. Was delighted at the callbacks to DS9 and began fervently hoping they’d managed to get Avery Brooks to cameo as General Sisko. He’d have been badass as heck. I knew it’d never happen but a guy can dream. If we don’t get at least ONE DS9 character featured somewhere soon, I will riot.
really interested to see where this goes next. So far, it’s definitely derivative ( feels like Mirror Universe plus First Contact put in a blender), but the execution was fantastic and I’m both hooked and hyped. Incidentally, John de Lancie was superb in his all too short scenes, and I had the revelation that Jurati is basically being written as Tilly, only I prefer Tilly. Curious that Soji barely seems to feature this season.
Neville Page confirmed that that skull I thought was a Saurian is indeed a Saurian
https://twitter.com/nevillepage/status/1502691672601206794?s=21
https://twitter.com/nevillepage/status/1502691672601206794?s=21
Screencaps gallery now online for you viewing pleasure.
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sc-PIC2-2.php
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sc-PIC2-2.php
I’ve seen a couple of people convinced that by the end of the season the Borg will join the Federation. I can’t see that in a million years. Not unless they fundamentally change everything about the Borg. In my view, it would be a true shark jump moment for the franchise.
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