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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x02 - "Penance"
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He's in the MCU as well...
General Sisko and Mister Alphabet were nice
It seems odd Raffi wouldn't know who Q is.
If humanity went off the rails in 2024, Cardassia may have never gotten the chance to invade Bajor.
Sisko being in both this altered timeline and in the mirror universe raises interesting questions as prime Sisko only exists because the beings existing outside of linear time that he met as an adult ensured his birth so that he could meet them.
General Jake Sisko.
Unlike Avery Brooks those two actors may be up for actually appearing...
Martok died in battle: the Klingon home world was devastated by the virus.
Were you going to elaborate?
Yet...
I also found it slightly odd that if she didn't know who they were, why the alphabet joke? For all she knew, Picard was talking about Cue. Or Q'ue. Et cetera.
Rewatching the scene, I see nothing to indicate that Raffi doesn't know who Q is. Even Elnor knows who he is. Raffi just chooses to be simplistically derisive about the name. (After all, she has more of the alphabet in her name than he does in his.
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I was disappointed that they didn't show Seven's reaction. She encountered Q while on Voyager as well.
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You can bet a high ranking security officer knows full well, who the Q are. Especially this Q.
However they don’t really show their face very often.
And only a couple of ships/stations outside the Enterprise had active contact.
They are probably thought of as near legend entities by most.
Being abusive is not carried in your DNA. Getting a bit too close to eugenics thinking like that.
Epigenetics shows that behaviors and experiences of trauma and abuse affect the expression of DNA, allowing the behaviors to be repeated within the next generation.
Yes but it doesn't change your genes but how you read them so it is not hereditary or something that the different timeline Picard's share and is not something can be passed to his children through current accepted science (yes there are exponents of heredity epigenetics who would disagree)
In one of the trailers, we saw
one of the time cops we met on Vyager. So maybe he is the Watcher.
"Wow, JL, did he give you any cool gadgets?"
He basically waited for Raffi to give him permission to go all "Jackie Chan" on them.
He even said "NOW?"
It's a bit of a reach that we have two different universes that diverged long before current day but still all the same people just happened to be born. But they're doing a great job with it so far.
Didn't Seven meet Q in Q2? They could have tossed in a dialog just mentioning it when Picard mentioned Q.
Didn't Seven meet Q in Q2? They could have tossed in a dialog just mentioning it when Picard mentioned Q.
In the many-world model of quantum mechanics (that Trek seems to follow) there would be effectively infinite amount of such universes though.
Q said he wouldn't be alone in this so the crew's presence in the time isn't a natural evolution but Q's manipulation. Sisko? Maybe the Prophets had a hand in that so he always appears. We don't know who Sarek's son and wife are in this as they were never named, I don't recall they were. Earth's timeline doesn't have to necessarily have an effect on any of the aliens like Dukhat or the other head honchos in the collection. I just hope the Borg Queen can do better than The Watcher in LA since that's a lot of people to investigate. If the watcher is even a human. Could be a computer, an early robot, a traffic cam that lets the cops catch someone who ought to get away in Picard's reality or get caught.
I hope it's Shatner playing a rude ass couch potato in a pointless Twitter feud for the last umpteen years with some guy claiming to be a spaceship captain.
I hope it's Shatner playing a rude ass couch potato in a pointless Twitter feud for the last umpteen years with some guy claiming to be a spaceship captain.
Except in the real world universes diverge on quantum choices, and in the Star Trek universes they diverge on human choices. In quantum mechanics, a "Choice" is "This particle either spun this way or this way". There's nothing special about you or I choosing to be nice to someone.
If Q specifically chose the one of infinite universes where all the same people just happened to be born, doesn't that dilute the implied consequentialism? That all of this is happening because of Picard's specific choices, it's not just one thing that had a 1 in 10^1000000 choices of occurring?
Not going to happen, but I’d love if Shatner was involved.
Seven may be smart and capable, but I'm not sure she was ever 'Spock smart' when it came to mental number crunching to the nth decimal place. Remember how Spock used to annoy his shipmates with that level of un-needed accuracy? And let's not forget, he re-computed the refit Enterprise's intermix formula in his head (according to the novelization, IIRC), to balance the warp drive and allow them to intercept V'ger with enough time to make a difference.
Spock, at least in his TOS science officer days, was a mental giant- probably better than most full Vulcans.
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but Seven's "husband" reminds me of Tatsu from the Ninja Turtle movies in the early-'90s.
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It was good stuff, but the whole episode was 'getting the band back together' after the initial Q-snap. It did give them some breathing room to introduce us to the world of the Confederation as well. I just have to wonder, however, if the investment in it will ultimately be worth it- once they go back in time, are we ever going to see the Confederation again, or will our experience with it be relegated to essentially one episode plus a bit in Ep 3?
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