Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x02 - "Penance"

[Gov Kodos]

what a coincidence: this is the actual combination of the main door of the bank I’m a client of! No kidding (at least you need to be already inside to use it)!

Couldn't you just jam the signal?

 

[cooleddie74]

Not with the bleeps, the creeps and the sweeps.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Tell them to comb the desert.

 

[Markonian]

Whoa, episode ends in a cliffhanger!

 

[Saul]

So in this alternate timeline Okinawa now looks like Hong Kong OR Hong Kong was called Okinawa.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Although that wasn't an Enterprise. It was a Klingon Bird-of-Prey.

It's like Air Force One. Starfleet mandated that any ship carrying Kirk would be called the Enterprise.

 

[Amaris]

The only thing no one (other than you) has mentioned is that this feels like a direct climate change allegory - allowing the planet to die, keeping the corpse on life support, the shield (cosmic rays, artificial atmosphere etc).

It feels so on the nose! My idea is that the ecological disaster prevents the Bell Riots being the key point of the 2020s and so WW3 gets pulled forward/different parties are allied than are meant to? Or a civil war breaks out in the US due to the Sanctuary districts not being shut down allowing Russia to take over unopposed?

I doubt it has anything to do with Russia, though if it did I would be supremely disappointed at the level of myopia and Ameri-centrism employed by the writers in the age of an international community. The Cold War narrative is only dated as long as we don't return to it (which we surely are). Think larger, and think closer to home. Expand your awareness.

To put it a little more bluntly: there is only one country who has used nuclear weapons on another country. It isn't Russia.

 

[Amasov]

In my whole time being a Star Trek fan, this was the first time Q ever put me on edge. John de Lancie's performance is brutal and intense. I especially loved that brief moment where we were given an inkling that something was wrong with him, too.

Overall, I loved this episode. So far, Star Trek: Picard is firing on all cylinders this season. It's been keeping me on the edge of my seat each week.

 

[Precious Tritium]

In my whole time being a Star Trek fan, this was the first time Q ever put me on edge. John de Lancie's performance is brutal and intense. I especially loved that brief moment where we were given an inkling that something was wrong with him, too.

Overall, I loved this episode. So far, Star Trek: Picard is firing on all cylinders this season. It's been keeping me on the edge of my seat each week.

Yeah, you really get the impression that if Sisko had tried to punch this Q, things would have ended very differently in that episode.

 

[Amasov]

Yeah, you really get the impression that if Sisko had tried to punch this Q, things would have ended very differently in that episode.

Or maybe that's why Q slapped Picard and seems so disoriented. He's still harboring the grudge against Sisko and needed to take it out on someone.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

I thought the washing hands thing was about if Picard chose to stay in that timeline and make amends

Q mentions the past, but doesn't point him in that direction. He points him to things he can do now: atone, ask for forgiveness, commit to penance. Q even plays " Je ne regrette rien," a song about cutting ties with the past. This is why I think that, although the gang might learn something in 2024, it's a red herring.

 

[Yistaan]

Why does Picard need to do penance for something in 2024? He wasn't even born yet!

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Why does Picard need to do penance for something in 2024? He wasn't even born yet!

Inherited privilege?

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Yeah, you really get the impression that if Sisko had tried to punch this Q, the season would have ended.

FTFY

 

[Yistaan]

This is Time's Arrow and Best of Both Worlds all over again isn't it? Guinan knows everything about Picard's upcoming 2024 adventure! Why does Picard even bother talking to her, she never spills the beans.

 

[fireproof78]

This is Time's Arrow and Best of Both Worlds all over again isn't it? Guinan knows everything about Picard's upcoming 2024 adventure! Why does Picard even bother talking to her, she never spills the beans.

You don't know unless you ask.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I doubt it has anything to do with Russia, though if it did I would be supremely disappointed at the level of myopia and Ameri-centrism employed by the writers in the age of an international community. The Cold War narrative is only dated as long as we don't return to it (which we surely are). Think larger, and think closer to home. Expand your awareness.

 

[Amaris]

Nothing I said is incorrect.

 

[Unicron]

Well, that was a fun ride. I admit, I now kind of want a spinoff with Picard, Harvey and Prisoner Borg Queen.

 

[Amaris]

Well, that was a fun ride. I admit, I now kind of want a spinoff with Picard, Harvey and Prisoner Borg Queen.

Harvey is certainly an interesting bit of trivia. I'm curious how instrumental he is in everything. Being evil Picard's "Number One" means he's likely seen and done things we would find morally reprehensible in service to his master. I'm curious how it all ties in.