I am in the minority here. I did not enjoy this episode as much as others. However, I feel that they do have a better sense of pacing than the people at Discovery.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x02 - "Penance"
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fantastic episode, easily an 8, close to a 9.
I love how angry and somewhat unhinged Q seems to be. The hard pimp slap was certainly unexpected.
so much for hand waiving away Picards synth/gollum body.
I really like the mama bear/baby bear dynamic they seem to have established with Raffi and Elnor. It suits both characters.
The Confederation is already a way better allegory, warning, whatever for the Trump/America First worldview than Discovery’s ham fisted Earth going “nope” and pulling the planet outta the Federation in Discovery when things got tough.
Loved the Lowed Decks quality callbacks.
2 for 2 so far.
I love how angry and somewhat unhinged Q seems to be. The hard pimp slap was certainly unexpected.
so much for hand waiving away Picards synth/gollum body.
I really like the mama bear/baby bear dynamic they seem to have established with Raffi and Elnor. It suits both characters.
The Confederation is already a way better allegory, warning, whatever for the Trump/America First worldview than Discovery’s ham fisted Earth going “nope” and pulling the planet outta the Federation in Discovery when things got tough.
Loved the Lowed Decks quality callbacks.
2 for 2 so far.
Yes, I'm loving that! Raffi gets to take another stab at being a mom, and I'm betting Elnor hasn't been the focus of that much care and affection since before he was orphaned (or perhaps ever). Puts me knee deep in fluffy, slightly murderous feelings.
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I wonder if she even exists in this altered timeline? They have the regular synths and Picard apparently has a synthetic body, so you'd think it's possible.
But Soji was a direct result of Data's death, and we don't even know if he was created here.
Something's bugging me now. They time-travelled three days into the past at the end of "The Naked Time" (TOS). "It is now three days ago." But did they end up doing a sling-shot effect? It's been too long since I've seen that episode.
If so, that makes it thrice the Enterprise did the Slingshot Effect, that we know of.
In my head I'm calling that episode the slingshot effect. The Enterprise approached the Psi 2000 home star at high warp and then was suddenly flung back in time three days to relive that period all over again. Sounds like the slingshot maneuver to me.
I hate Treknobabble but the Naked Time wasn't around a sun. I recall the ship was in the gravity well of the planet when Spock and Scotty caused an implosion in the reactor to cold start the engines. The resulting warp field might have interacted with the gravity well in a fashion similar to the sling shot effect around a sun.
On the other hand, they might just be making this shit up. Run with it.
Besides all the things already being said here ... I still don't like the aspect ratio. It all feels small, squeezed and compressed, and the action sequences are really hard to follow. I think this show would greatly benefit from an open 16x9 aspect ratio!
We know that they plotted a Hyperbolic course, back "the way we came", but we don't know what direction that was since they start the episode orbiting the planet. Lets assume they passed by the sun on the way in. That means they may have discovered the slingshot effect that way. However the episode itself implies they caused time warp by the implosion simply causing them to travel faster than anyone ever has before.
She's been seen in the trailers wearing a red dress. So either she's in the TL, or she's a playing another character/doppelganger. Maybe another Watcher like Laris?
What about ST: IV 'The Voyage home'?
They did a slingshot maneuver in that movie, so there you go.
The woman wearing a red dress in the trailers is Agnes. Soji was barely in any of the trailers, in fact, but in one of the few shows of her that were included, she was wearing white, iirc.
Although that wasn't an Enterprise. It was a Klingon Bird-of-Prey.
Soong-type androids are definitely possible, but no idea if she exist. As I said, if she shows up it will probably be soon in the next episode, to save them.
definitely a slingshot manoeuvre, although possibly not around a sun. In fact naked time was supposed to end with the enterprise travelling to the past, the following episode being Tomorrow is Yeaterday, but they eventually nixed the idea as it would have made broadcasting episodes out of order difficult. They pretty much left everything else intact, though, so the first episode ends with a time travelling that taken alone seems a bit superfluous but was in fact out there to set up the second, which basically kept the setup unaltered anyway.
both the directors I’ve been working with for my movie insist that’s the way to go now, being “more cinematic”. Go figure, I prefer all the areas of my screen to be used.
Yeah, but, if you read upthread, we were specifically talking about the Enterprise herself.
Someone said, "Actually, they didn't do it with the Enterprise, they did it with a Bird-of-Prey!" Obviously referring to TVH. Then someone else said they did it on TOS. Then I listed the examples. And then I thought, "Wait a minute, isn't there another one?", which brings us back... to here!
Yes, but when will it be now?Yeah, but, if you read upthread, we were specifically talking about the Enterprise herself.
Someone said, "Actually, they didn't do it with the Enterprise, they did it with a Bird-of-Prey!" Obviously referring to TVH. Then someone else said they did it on TOS. Then I listed the examples. And then I thought, "Wait a minute, isn't there another one?", which brings us back... to here!
Next thing you know we'll be telling everyone our luggage combinations.
what a coincidence: this is the actual combination of the main door of the bank I’m a client of! No kidding (at least you need to be already inside to use it)!
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