Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x02 - "Penance"

[Sakonna]

But I'm overall really pleased with how coherent the themes are shaping up to be; the writers have put all the right pieces in place to make an actual point instead of constantly undercutting themselves like last season.

Tell me about it! I still can't get over all that thematic setup dvocating for the importance of accepting refugees -- and they then went on to reveal the refugees were responsible for all the horrible mass death events of the season. On top of infiltrating and corrupting the government of their would-be helpers.

Picard Season 1: a fantastic argument for closing your doors and just leaving refugees to die outside your borders. I feel like that's not what they were going for, though...

 

[Yistaan]

Tell me about it! I still can't get over all that thematic setup dvocating for the importance of accepting refugees -- and they then went on to reveal the refugees were responsible for all the horrible mass death events of the season. On top of infiltrating and corrupting the government of their would-be helpers.

Picard Season 1: a fantastic argument for closing your doors and just leaving refugees to die outside your borders. I feel like that's not what they were going for, though...

Oh wasn't a refugee. If anything, she was a figure of the corrupt and incompetent regime the refugees were trying to escape (along with the supernova).

Not all Romulans are the same. Just as in the real world not all Syrians/Ukrainians/(insert race here) are the same. That's literally one of the most important facts one needs to know in the world. Just because one Romulan (or one real world member of a race) did something bad doesn't mean we don't help the tons of other innocent members of their race. Picard Season 1 was right on.

 

[Tuskin38]

and they then went on to reveal the refugees were responsible for all the horrible mass death events of the season.

No they didn't.

Commdore Oh was a Tal'shiar/Zhat Vash infiltrator pretending to be a Vulcan, not a refugee. The attack was carried out by the Tal'shiar/Zhat Vash reprogramming the Synth works, not the refugees.

I don't even think most of the Refugees had arrived yet, the rescue fleet was destroyed at Mars.

And all this happened before the supernova even happened.

 

[Tuskin38]

I think this skull is an 8472

 

[SG-17]

General Picard speedrunning Prime Janeway's accomplishments.

 

[eschaton]

Tell me about it! I still can't get over all that thematic setup dvocating for the importance of accepting refugees -- and they then went on to reveal the refugees were responsible for all the horrible mass death events of the season. On top of infiltrating and corrupting the government of their would-be helpers.

Picard Season 1: a fantastic argument for closing your doors and just leaving refugees to die outside your borders. I feel like that's not what they were going for, though...

I just "loved" when Picard took down a "Romulans Only" sign put up by fucking Romulans!

Tried to make a statement about discrimination being wrong, ended up making a statement about an old white guy being a colonialist prick and insisting on going where he wasn't wanted.

 

[The Rock]

I think this skull is an 8472

Poor Gul Dukat!

Also, they showed a Ferengi skull. I hope that isn't Quark's!

 

[Tuskin38]

I hope that isn't Quark's!

The Nagus' staff was under it, so it was probably Zek.

 

[The Rock]

The Nagus' staff was under it, so it was probably Zek.

Poor Zek!

 

[Turtletrekker]

The Nagus' staff was under it, so it was probably Zek.

Or Rom.

 

[Tuskin38]

Or Rom.

I doubt it, without the Federation influencing him, I doubt he ever got from under his brother's shadow.

 

[The Rock]

You just know that there was a big part of Picard that wanted to kill the Borg queen right then and there when he had his pistol pointed at her.

 

[Tuskin38]

I just "loved" when Picard took down a "Romulans Only" sign put up by fucking Romulans!

Tried to make a statement about discrimination being wrong, ended up making a statement about an old white guy being a colonialist prick and insisting on going where he wasn't wanted.

Ok this I agree with.
What you're responding to I don't.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

Poor Zek!

It's inconceivable!

 

[SG-17]

I kinda think based on what we learned in Discovery is that the Mirror Universe wasn't a real alternate universe/timeline like we've seen elsewhere but some kind of dark reflection of the Prime Universe that constantly was shifting and changing to mirror the Prime Universe in the general existence of people, places, and ships and thus wasn't bound to linearity. It would literally retcon itself until something happened that caused it to break free of the Prime Universe and become a real reality.

Thats why in only 50 minutes the Confederation is a more convincing dark timeline than the Mirror Universe could ever be.

 

[The Rock]

It's inconceivable!

I see what you did there.

 

[BK613]

Other than kind of wishing that it was K'Mpec instead of Martok, a really good episode. Really liking this season so far.

Kind of also want to see the Mirror Universe of this Prime Universe.

 

[Tuskin38]

I noticed something, the 3D renders of the Borg Queen on the computer display next to the cryo chamber, she her torso is naked, with her arms up covering her breasts.

 

[The Rock]

Other than kind of wishing that it was K'Mpec instead of Martok, a really good episode. Really liking this season so far.

Kind of also want to see the Mirror Universe of this Prime Universe.

Lol I'm betting Mirror Universe of this Prime Universe was a Terran Empire that suddenly had a huge change of heart and decided to become a force for good and somehow became the Federation. Probably after the Terran Empire was overthrown around DS9's time.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

Would have been awesome to use Seska altered to look human playing the Magistrate.

I suspect the Queen will make quick work of disarming the boarding party. Consider the marriage dissolved...