Apparently, most of what we've seen in previews is from the first three episodes.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x01 - "The Star Gazer"
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It's called Ten Forward because that's literally its location on the ship. It's not called "the mess hall" because it isn't a friggin' mess hall. It's a lounge.
And Guinan didn't name the damn thing.
It's yet another example of the unbelievably clumsy and dumb way they try to do easter eggs on these modern Trek shows while completely missing the point, if not downright getting things factually wrong.
Yes, they did. I argued that they did it poorly. And then a different poster said that "expecting them to do it at all" somehow makes people "entitled."
I honestly think that would have been the better explanation and that basically my assumption, as well.
Saying she "made herself" look old to make her patrons more comfortable would imply she has regular patrons who have been around long enough to notice or care who don't happen to be evolved 24th Century humans and who apparently judge people by their appearance and have never met aliens before.
Yet another brain dead choice by the modern Trek writers.
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Yes, that was the original intent. And now PIC has revealed that she seems to enjoy re-using that name, suggesting that she may have persuaded Jean-Luc to put it on Deck 10, forward section in order to use that name.
A distinction without a meaningful difference. It's the set where the characters are written to socialize while the actors pretend to eat. It's a mess hall.
There is no canonical evidence of that assertion whatsoever.
You are way too emotionally invested in this.
Yup-----80% first 2
Pulaski.
New Doctor Decides it's therapeutic for the crew to have a pub.
A condition for employment?
Especially if the line for the lower decks to get into the holodeck is 4 months.
Alternately Crusher was cock blocking the pub because she didn't want to deal with drunks crowding up her surgery with idiot mouth breathing problems.
I feel like a change in CMO is connected to building a pub.
New Doctor Decides it's therapeutic for the crew to have a pub.
A condition for employment?
Especially if the line for the lower decks to get into the holodeck is 4 months.
Alternately Crusher was cock blocking the pub because she didn't want to deal with drunks crowding up her surgery with idiot mouth breathing problems.
I feel like a change in CMO is connected to building a pub.
There are no words for how dumb this is. You think Guinan persuaded Picard to put the ship's lounge in the Deck Ten Forward section of the ship because she "liked the name"?? Oy vey....
Nope. Wrong.
From "All Good Things..."
PICARD
(to Troi)
Counselor, do you remember the
first day I came aboard the
Enterprise?
TROI
Yes.
PICARD
What happened after the welcoming
ceremony?
TROI
There was a reception in Ten
Forward... I introduced you to
Worf and the other senior
officers...
Long before Guinan came aboard, Ten Forward existed and was referred to as such.
I would think that it's the same on all Galaxy Class ships as well.
Yes, this is a very dumb debate. It's fine if Guinan likes to name her bars Ten-Forward. If you don't like that idea, that's fine too. It is absolutely not a topic worth getting emotionally invested in.
That is a perfectly valid interpretation of the line. It would be just as valid to interpret it as meaning Troi is retroactively calling it by a name it received later. Either interpretation is completely valid. Nothing about that line explicitly establishes when it was named or by whom, and therefore nothing about it precludes interpretations that differ from yours.
It is starting to look like Picard has a type, and that type is ‘friends widow’.
Mine is based on facts, your "theory" is based completely on wild speculation with no support.
It's perfectly fine, of course, if Guinan names her NEW bar after the one she worked on aboard the ENT-D. But to suggest that she personally named the ENT-D lounge "Ten Forward" let alone that she always names her bars that is sheer poppycock.
And no one's getting "worked up" over anything.
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she was in SF
he realized on the artifact that the borg are victims and lost some of his fear
it's so nice that they left existing ships alone this time
The greatest romance in Trek: Julian and Bashir.
Uhura got her own ship!Lancelot Class.
Well Star Trek III / ToS Movie Klingons are NOT 1:1 with TNG Klingons in terms of makeup. There are major differences that are often overlooked.
But I meant in the broader sense. Think about what TNG did. It:
swapped uniform colors
added pips for ranks
added the combadge, the remote like phaser, the tricorder as we think of it
The entire visual design of the Enterprise D exterior and interior, especially the bridge and saucer section corridors, is nothing like TOS or TNG. The Galaxy class bridge was as radically different from the TOS bridge as Discovery was from TNG.
Rejigged the entire structure of the show with a dedicated first officer and an older captain.
Gave new designs to the Romulans and the Klingons (updated from films)
TNG was every bit as big a visual reboot (maybe even larger) than the changes made in Season 1 discovery, which in many ways are almost 1:1 with the above list. I absolutely thing that was Fuller's original intent, even though it was canon breaking. It best explains the weird Discovery uniforms and new division colors.
We both have subjective interpretations. Neither one is "based on facts." Both are equally valid.
We both have subjective interpretations. Neither one is "based on facts." Both are equally valid.
I pointed out to you that the name Ted Forward predated Guinan being on the Enterprise. That's a fact.
You countered with a hypothesis that maybe Troi was just using the name retroactively. That's speculation.
Yeah fair enough, I didn’t love it but I’m more just commenting on what was perhaps the feedback from enough fans to make them put everyone into Star Fleet uniforms and in SF ships
Whoa, Uhura got her own ship! I guess the communications officer to captain career path can work out.Lancelot Class.
It must have been a pretty important ship as well, as it was apparently famous enough for Starfleet to look back at it 100 years later and design all their new ships to look like it. Who knew the Sovereign class was so retro?
How did they get the Easter egg wrong ?
How I took it was Guinan had 10 forward on the ship which was named like you say and then as a nod to that opened a bar at no.10 Forward st.
