Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x01 - "The Star Gazer"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Mar 2, 2022.

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  1. Andyliini

    Andyliini Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Wow, what a way to open a season. The pace was great and I thoroughly enjoyed the episode with all of it's drama, jokes, characters and ship porn. This was just as good, if not better than season 1 opener, Remembrance, which I also loved. Really enjoyed the cast who were seemingly thrilled about returning, altough only Picard had real scenes (though that is understandable, since it's his own series).

    It was great to see Quinan and Q again after all these years, they even have in-universe explanation on why they look older than before. And at least Q returns in next episode as well. Well done producers, you have created a wonderful entry into this series.

    10/10. Still in awe.
     
  2. Mike Doyle

    Mike Doyle Commander Red Shirt

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    There are some others in "No Man's Land" the new Audio Drama set between S1 and S2.
     
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  3. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Starfleet is still a very Earth dominated organization in the 2250s. Most of the Vulcans in Starfleet were transferred from previous Vulcan Military Service, or the Science Academy, (like Michael Burnham), I see no conflicts with only a few Vulcans actually learning alongside humans at Starfleet Academy by the time Spock joined.

    Basically many Vulcans probably found living among emotional species unpleasant, but would later transfer to Starfleet if it was the logical course of action for what they wanted to study.
     
  4. Unimatrix Q

    Unimatrix Q Commodore Commodore

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    "GUINAN: Q set a series of events into motion, bringing contact with the Borg much sooner than it should have come. Now, perhaps when you're ready, it might be possible to establish a relationship with them. But for now, for right now, you're just raw material to them."

    These Borg might have been the ones, Guinan talked about in this scene from "Q, Who?" and that's what Q may have meant with "the road not taken"...
     
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  5. Sci

    Sci Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The idea that an organization formed from combining four worlds' space forces would ever be dominated by only one of those worlds in the first place doesn't make sense.
     
  6. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The Intrepid had a crew of over 400 Vulcans and that was a Constitution-class starship. Vulcan members of Starfleet were important enough by 2268 that one of the twelve most advanced and powerful ships in the fleet was crewed entirely by them.
     
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  7. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    This is how I see it, when the Federation was founded all 4 space forces were relaunched. So the new Vulcan High Command and the Andorian (Federal?) Guard also have 2161 founding dates now. They are all out there doing Federation business. It took over a century for Starfleet to become the primary arm of these 4, with the other 3 slowly contracting back to primarily homeworld level business.
     
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  8. Sci

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    That would be like if the 13 original states all kept their own separate navies and then gradually the Virginia Navy started being used by the Union and the rest of the state navies stuck to their local shores.
     
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  9. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well, the Virginia Navy would be the most likely to have the pedigree and firepower to come to the forefront. ;)
     
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  10. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Speak for yourself. This fan enjoyed that, and I also know many others who did.

    It's named after it, but it isn't it. Different registry. (at least in STO's lore)
     
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  11. fireproof78

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    I think so too. But I think the general idea would be adopted as meaning destiny is a force in the Star Trek universe. I'm not saying that Spock was being literal but I think the idea is being played around with in a different way.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    Imperial Guard for the Andorians.
     
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  13. Llywela

    Llywela Commander Red Shirt

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    Agreed. I thought the episode established a nice rapport between Rios and his new crew.
    Agreed, plus most of the firing after the order was given came from the security team piling onto the bridge, seeing a Borg queen mid-takeover and firing automatically - none of them had been on the bridge to hear the cease fire called. The chaos of the moment did the rest.
     
  14. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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  16. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/195.htm
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  17. thribs

    thribs Vice Admiral Admiral

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    They really love the word synthetic. They never used that word 20 years ago and now they use it for everything when it comes to machines
     
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  18. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It's a lot better word than 'inorganic'. Because Inorganic does not mean what they think it means.
     
  19. fireproof78

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    Lacking carbon?
     
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  20. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah, I was trying to imply they may have changed the name when they become a Federation service, didn't feel the need to go into detail, since the comment wasn't really about that.