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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x01 - "The Star Gazer"

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The B-52 bomber may end up serving at least an entire century before all is said and done and externally will look almost exactly the way she did when Dwight Eisenhower was President.

And for that matter, I'm pretty sure ship designs didn't evolve much for hundred of years at a time in the pre-Industrial eras. Sometimes technology can be stable for decades or centuries before entering periods of rapid evolution in response to paradigm shifts -- technological punctuated equilibrium.
 
Looks like both looks are now canon. Guess she turns into the TOS ship by the time Kirk is offered and takes command.
Rather than switching back and forth between designs in-universe like crazy ("Q&A">"The Cage">Disco/SNW>TOS), maybe it's better to think of them switching back and forth between starship "actors"

Like they did Borg Queens, back in the day.
 
Finally watching this episode. What the FUCK, writers. Killed off Zhaban and Laris wants Picard.

I'm going to throw up. Star Trek cannot do romance and should have left well enough alone. Grr. Leave my Rommies alone.

I liked it. And it was necessary to set up Picard's arc.

To each his own.
 
Finally watching this episode. What the FUCK, writers. Killed off Zhaban and Laris wants Picard.

I'm going to throw up. Star Trek cannot do romance and should have left well enough alone. Grr. Leave my Rommies alone.
Don't be silly! Star Trek does romance just fine. First there was the grab ass guy in the original series, and then the grandma ghost sex candle in TNG, and don't forget the lizards having sex in Voyager! Enterprise was full of romantic entanglements that were healthy, like the aliens who got Trip pregnant, or totally not gay Malcolm and his many exploits with women! There were so many great romances in ENT that I refuse to name them! Then you had Michael and Ash in Discovery, Michael and Book, also in Discovery, and that worked out really well, so you can't tell me Star Trek isn't a great place to look at terrific starships.
 
Finally watching this episode. What the FUCK, writers. Killed off Zhaban and Laris wants Picard.

I'm going to throw up. Star Trek cannot do romance and should have left well enough alone. Grr. Leave my Rommies alone.

I actually thought this was great. The best episode of this show and probably better than any single episode of Disco. That would make this the best of live action Bad Robot Trek so far. New Show Runner seems to really have meant something this time.
 
Don't be silly! Star Trek does romance just fine. First there was the grab ass guy in the original series, and then the grandma ghost sex candle in TNG, and don't forget the lizards having sex in Voyager! Enterprise was full of romantic entanglements that were healthy, like the aliens who got Trip pregnant, or totally not gay Malcolm and his many exploits with women! There were so many great romances in ENT that I refuse to name them! Then you had Michael and Ash in Discovery, Michael and Book, also in Discovery, and that worked out really well, so you can't tell me Star Trek isn't a great place to look at terrific starships.
You forgot Kirk and the Enterprise.
 
I'd give it 9/10. This was a fantastic launch for this season and an improvement on last season's first episode (though I still enjoyed it). I love that Seven will have an expanded role this season. And I can't wait to see how Picard interacts with Q in the upcoming episodes.
 
The Leondegrance is a Walker-class ship (like the Shenzhou), isn't it?
Lancelot Class.
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I liked it. And it was necessary to set up Picard's arc.

To each his own.

I'd disagree about it being necessary - this could have just as easily been something like two friends talking about roads not taken due to a development in Bev's offscreen life troubling Picard, and having Laris making her observation of his troubling isolation from there. I didn't hate what we got, it gets the job done, but I thought it was clunky writing to tell the audience Oh, btw, Zhaban's dead, then swerve into potential romance a half-second later, when comradely love/concern works just as well to get the plot moving.
 
I said it on reddit, and I'll say it here: this is the best episode of Star Trek produced in this century, and that includes Lower Decks.

So, do we think that the Black Queen might be Seven?
 
Does anybody have any inkling of how much time they're going to spend in the 21st century this season?
 
It bothers me that Picard is a-ok confronting the actual, active, extremely dangerous Borg here after having a panic attack upon boarding the Artifact just a year or two before.

It's just one of those big important character things that stops mattering with a change in showrunner. It's not that I don't find the plot compelling (at least the teaser we've had so far), I just wish it felt more in sync with season one.
Is he though?
Looked to me that he froze in place immediately when the Borg Queen (?) beamed onto the bridge and barely managed to issue the self destruct order.
Composure and facing the danger looks different to me.
 
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