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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x01 - "The Star Gazer"

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Was that picture at the Picard house before? I would find that odd given Picard's brother's attitude.

More so, I find it odd that a reproduction wouldn't be just as good?

Shinzon captured Robert and Rene, to drain their spinal fluid, to prolong his life, and then their deaths were faked.

It's possible they were still alive on the scimitar, when Picard destroyed the ship.
 
I gave it a 7/10 — definitely a lot of fun, but a bit disjointed at times for me. I’m a big Guinan fan so I was a little disappointed by their reunion scene.
My score might be a little low because my spouse kept interrupting the show every 5 mins to demand an explainer on this or that :lol:
 
More so, I find it odd that a reproduction wouldn't be just as good?
For you, perhaps. Picard, on the other hand, would prefer the definite article.
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I’m replying to Fireproof

If you ignore someone it also hides quotes from them in other posts.
Which is kind of annoying, because then you just see people talking to themselves, or like what happened to you, you think they're talking to you when they're not.

Good point, that did occur to me some time after I made that post, so I deleted my reply. Thank you for clarifying.
 
I rate this 8 Andys #STTNC
I know it's all been discussed in this thread but here's my take on it.

I've watched it twice now. First opinion was 8 of 10 and after 2nd watching I'm sticking with it.

A few comments.
Loved the Giuinan scene. Was one of the best parts and something I want to rewatch more.
New Stargazer, loved it, shame it went explody, I'm sure it will be back somehow tho.
I do really like them expanding on Picard's anxiety to love. That's what I call the failed kiss.

Much like All Good Things he is blaming Q for the altered reality which will happen cause of actions he will take in the past. Q just is the enabler.

There is a lot more they will unpack about his mother.
Her ties to the born queen could be interesting.
I just wonder was she assimilated or did they just get the knowledge of "Look up" from when he was Locutus? Can't wait to find out.

I hope they don't lose the momentum.
Last season had a similar good foundation but took 6-7 episodes before Picard & Soji met up and got the real story underway.
I want 1 good WTF episode of the crew seeing this new timeline.
Then by end of ep3 I want them going back in time to fix it. Don't drag it out more than that.
My biggest problem with S1 was that pacing.
2nd biggest problem was killing off the hero in the season finale.
So if he's a real boy again now, that would be a good retcon.
In reality Q should have showed up when he died at the end of last season but it's more dramatic this way.
 
Orla Brady was in this week's episode of Death in Paradise, where she is still playing a widow who's husband died 1 year ago.

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So I guess Laris also time traveled to the dystopian past too.
 
If "real life humans age" isn't explanation enough, then people need to get their head out of their asses. I don't mind wanting to create a headcanon, but being upset that human beings can't remain in chronological stasis or it ruins the character is top shelf self-entitlement, and just bullshit.

Since the dawn of motion pictures, filmmakers have used make-up and later digital effects to alter the appearance of actors, very often to make them appear a different age as the character who is doing the performing. It's part of the game.

if you write yourself "ageless" characters and decide to dust those characters off 3 decades later, yes, it's highly advisable to make a minimal effort to address the inconsistency, whether in dialogue or by employing those aforementioned effects. It's how you create and maintain the illusion.

It doesn't make someone "entitled" to expect that that effort will be made.
 
Hmmm... is he, though? If this is an alternate timeline, it's possible the events of last season never happened in this timeline, and Picard never got transferred into a synth body.

How is it already an alternate timeline? Isn't that yet to come?
 
How is it already an alternate timeline? Isn't that yet to come?
After the Stargazer goes boom at the end of the episode, Picard wakes up in the alternate timeline with Q.

if you write yourself "ageless" characters
They never said Guinan was ageless in TNG, just that her species is long lived.

I assumed their excuse would be that she finally reached the age where El-Aurians show their age, but I was wrong.
 
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