Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x01 - "The Star Gazer"
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These guys took a ferry across the Mersey
You can make up your own show in your head, and I'm sure it would be very interesting to its demographic of one, but that is not what was said in the dialogue.
In my head everything was shut down by the whale probe, gobbled up by the Doomsday machine, which was then grabbed by the giant green space hand and thrown past the galactic barrier which was then SPOILER into SPOILER by the bubbles in SPOILER up its SPOILER and they all had glowing eyes and turned evil. The end. But now that we've established that, no, it was specifically stated that work was done on Stargazer. The borg queen seemed to know that, and infiltrated it specifically. It had nothing to do with Voyager, which so far as I know, was not shown at the incident.
The Enterprise was probably on the other side of the quadrant investigating its own space/time anomaly...they're like groundhogs in Star Trek.
Q as a Jabberwocky taunting ponies...nice. Maybe he should have sent them to the J-25 System.
To beam through shields you have to know the shield frequencies.
The Borg Queen had a remote desk top, which is another way of saying that she had the prefix codes for the entire fleet, which is something I now remember them saying.
If she had the prefix codes, she could lock out the crew and drop the shields, which I suppose would be even easier than attenuating the transporting signal to strike through the specific band width of the shields.
Star Trek Generations and Wrath of Khan.
Guinan's scene here was directly related to Picard's earlier exchanges with Laris, and was clearly set-up for Picard's arc through the season, set-up which needed to take place before the primary plot-arc kicked in on Stargazer. So no, it was not unrelated to anything else, and no, it could not have been pushed back an episode. It was in exactly the right place.
On this note, one of the things that is getting more and more impossible to ignore is the complete absence of Klingons in Season 3/4 of Discovery and Season 1 and probably all of 2 of Picard. I don't think I'm taking too much of a guess here to say that the avoidance is intentional.
The Discovery Klingon redesign sucks and everyone knows it. Even the modified Season 2 version sucked. It was all part of Bryan Fuller's mad scheme to do a TNG Season 1-style visual reboot (which only worked under different circumstances, namely lack of Star Trek at the time) of everything Star Trek that production got saddled with after he left. They don't want to suddenly have Discovery Klingons popping up in Picard, and neither do they want to have have them suddenly show up in the 32nd century. Star Trek Online has them side by side, and it doesn't really work.
But if they do a 25th century show, be it a Stargazer, an academy or something else, it'll become too big to ignore. Picard Season 1 and Discovery Seasons 1-2 were extremely bashful about continuity, particularly visual continuity. But season 3, and especially 4 of Discovery, and now just one episode into Season 2 of Picard, and they're a lot more comfortable with it. A 25th century show not centering on Picard but centering on current events of the galaxy 25th century would have to pick up threads of the pre-Nemesis continuity they wanted to avoid for a long time. But maybe it took 5 years of production to to get to that point.
I thought it was pretty great. I’m kinda shocked Goldsman wrote it to be honest, it was that good. The dialogue was on point, the pacing was perfect, and the setup is both compelling and intriguing.
Let’s hope they can continue the momentum this time unlike last season.
The preview looks awesome.
Let’s hope they can continue the momentum this time unlike last season.
The preview looks awesome.
Anyone else think it was a little cheap to have the teaser cut the way it was so lots of important dialogue is missing?
Also since Ten Forward is in LA, are we going to see a de-aged Guinan when the crew inevitably visit in 2024?
Also since Ten Forward is in LA, are we going to see a de-aged Guinan when the crew inevitably visit in 2024?
They did a decent job with CGI de-aged Q, so I wouldn’t be completely upset if that happens.
Tongue in cheek? Yeah, that's not in the text at all and is not an accurate reading whatsoever. Her comments were explicitly intended to "explain" how a character who is hundreds and hundreds of years old and didn't age a day between 1893 and the 24th Century suddenly aged like a normal human would have in the days since TNG ended.
It was very clumsily handled, but, in fairness, they had to address it somehow. but, as usual, the writing on this show is so subpar that they picked a terrible way to do it.
They absolutely needed an explanation.
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The CGI Q was pretty awful. The sad part is, John de Lancie has aged so well they didn't need to bother with CGI or with him magically making himself "old." They could have just died his hair and used conventional make-up effects to make him look fairly close to his old self. It wouldn't have been perfect, but it would have been good enough and certainly leagues better than how Data/Spiner looked in Season 1.
And it would have been cool to see at least a quasi-ageless Q. Otherwise, they should have gone with comically-aged Q, hearing trumpet and all, as he appeared in "All Good Things."
I thought it was pretty well done. A lot better than CGI Leia in Rogue One, for example.
It was a bad scene that did nothing but give us redundant discussion of things we already knew from the earlier scene, in a much more heavy-handed and obvious way. And Picard gained no new knowledge or insight from his visit, Guinan had literally nothing of value to offer. He came away from the scene with nothing.
It honestly felt like the scene was added in long after the episode was written, just as a "fun" cameo for Guinan, but needed to be standalone and, as such, was unable to actually move the ball forward in the arc in any way. It was completely superfluous and useless.
Yeah that annoyed me. Watching at the start I did think "That isn't how you order self destruct, where's his authorisation code!"
Anyway on the whole I liked it, the first half was a bit of a chore but the second half more than made up for it. Interesting that they seem to be taking facets from Stewart's life and inserting them into Picard's.
Also I love that Picard's mum is even less French than him!
