Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x01 - "The Star Gazer"

[XCV330]

I have to say, after watching a second time, that as much as I like Orla Brady as Laris, that little lampshading expository line about how Romulans deal with losing a mate was the clumsiest moment in the episode. On top of anything else, it was a total "as you know, Bob..." moment.

just needed a couple more lines .
Laris: Romulans move on after their mate dies and find a new one within a year and a half.

Picard: (confused) I.. don't think that's true..

Laris: Well I do! (makes her move... wah-peddle guitar starts playing)

It's probably best I am not a screen writer.

 

[Mike Doyle]

I am talking about Disco's bridge crew, now Saru, Tilly or Stamets. I am talking about these people that their only use was to show reactions on what was happening on the bridge. I can't get it how they managed to make them look so indifferent. Was it the weird camera angles? bad directing? bad casting? the writing? Dunno.. but in "Picard" they made the unknown crew of Stargazer (not Picard or Seven or Rios) look much more interesting and intriguing.

DISCLAIMER: I’m not a director and know nothing about it.

I don’t know if it’s something as silly as the size of the bridge. Discovery’s bridge is so massive they have to cut away from the captain to show someone at a station react. On the stargazer they’re in shot already or it pans across. If a main character has to talk to them (Agnes going to the science station) it’s a short walk and maybe an awkward limbo under a rail instead of on disco where it’s almost a short sprint.

 

[Crewman6]

I don’t know… I suspect ‘that ship has sailed, I watched it leave’ may come back at some point.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I follow.

 

[jaime]

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I follow.

It’s a line in Picards conversation with Guinan.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

To beam through shields you have to know the shield frequencies.

True, the Borg Queen & her crew didn't have them.

The Borg Queen had a remote desk top, which is another way of saying that she had the prefix codes for the entire fleet, which is something I now remember them saying.

That's why you shouldn't have the "PreFix Codes" sitting inside your computer memory, it should be Off-line, locked in a container, encrypted, and hidden.

Leaving it inside your computer RAM / Long term storage is a BAD idea.

Especially with somebody like the Borg who has enough computational power to brute force break through encryption.

The fact that those "PreFix Codes" were sitting around, probably allowed the Borg Queen to hack all nearby ships as quickly as she did.

IMO, StarFleet needs a new policy about where to store the "Pre-Fix Codes".

PreFix Codes to other vessels are kept OFF-LINE, on individual physical media on a per StarShip basis, encrypted, locked in a secure vault, behind a Force Field, that has an independent power supply, & can’t be bypassed via Transporters or other Subspace teleporting technology due to jamming/shielding. Most PreFix Codes are scattered amongst various StarFleet Facilities and kept in secure locations. They are requested on a case-by-case, mission specific need.

If she had the prefix codes, she could lock out the crew and drop the shields, which I suppose would be even easier than attenuating the transporting signal to strike through the specific band width of the shields.

Yeah, that was one hell of a way of pushing through the Shields by brute force changing your Transporter Beam Frequency fast enough to counter whatever random Shield Frequency rotation that StarFleet had until you hit the matching Frequency # and punched a hole through the shields.

 

[Tuskin38]

She didn't beam through the shields directly, remember the borg ship fired on them first.

 

[ELCHawk]

Gave it a 9. Fantastic episode.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Has Q not noticed PIcard is a Synth, doesn't care that Picard is a Synth

Hmmm... is he, though? If this is an alternate timeline, it's possible the events of last season never happened in this timeline, and Picard never got transferred into a synth body.

 

[GNDN18]

it's possible the events of last season never happened

 

[Jedi Marso]

Hmmm... is he, though? If this is an alternate timeline, it's possible the events of last season never happened in this timeline, and Picard never got transferred into a synth body.

Then how would you account for the line about "You look absolutely positronic!" ?

 

[Avro Arrow]

Then how would you account for the line about "You look absolutely positronic!" ?

That was before Picard woke up in (what I'm assuming is) the alternate timeline at the end of the episode, which is when he encountered Q.

ETA: Just thought I should clarify in case my response isn't clear. During almost the entirety of the episode, I assume that was just a continuation from season 1, and of course Picard would still be a synth. After the self-destruct, he woke up in what is presumably an alternate timeline (what people have been referring to as the "fascist Federation" timeline), and in that timeline, it's possible that what we saw in season 1 didn't happen, and Picard is not a synth. This is when Q dropped in, so to Guy's point, he doesn't have to necessarily ignore that Picard is a synth, because it is possible he is not, in that timeline.

Just like how, according to the trailers,

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Seven/Annika appears to have never been assimilated so doesn't have Borg implants in this timeline.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Or maybe Q didn't say anything because it's an utter irrelevancy.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Synth Picard closing his eyes and awakening in a human body in the transformed universe would seem to definitively prove that they are one and the same.

 

[Amaris]

Tongue in cheek? Yeah, that's not in the text at all and is not an accurate reading whatsoever. Her comments were explicitly intended to "explain" how a character who is hundreds and hundreds of years old and didn't age a day between 1893 and the 24th Century suddenly aged like a normal human would have in the days since TNG ended.

It was very clumsily handled, but, in fairness, they had to address it somehow. but, as usual, the writing on this show is so subpar that they picked a terrible way to do it.



They absolutely needed an explanation.

If "real life humans age" isn't explanation enough, then people need to get their head out of their asses. I don't mind wanting to create a headcanon, but being upset that human beings can't remain in chronological stasis or it ruins the character is top shelf self-entitlement, and just bullshit.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That was before Picard woke up in (what I'm assuming is) the alternate timeline at the end of the episode, which is when he encountered Q.

ETA: Just thought I should clarify in case my response isn't clear. During almost the entirety of the episode, I assume that was just a continuation from season 1, and of course Picard would still be a synth. After the self-destruct, he woke up in what is presumably an alternate timeline (what people have been referring to as the "fascist Federation" timeline), and in that timeline, it's possible that what we saw in season 1 didn't happen, and Picard is not a synth. This is when Q dropped in, so to Guy's point, he doesn't have to necessarily ignore that Picard is a synth, because it is possible he is not, in that timeline.

Just like how, according to the trailers,

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Seven/Annika appears to have never been assimilated so doesn't have Borg implants in this timeline.

This is fascist asshole Picard.

Regular Picard got an android body from being loved and respected... Fascist assholes are rarely respected, by anyone other than Tucker Carlson.

I suppose they could have been vivisecting Data for the last 40 years until, every dead person gets a hot new killer bod?

 

[fireproof78]

If "real life humans age" isn't explanation enough, then people need to get their head out of their asses. I don't mind wanting to create a headcanon, but being upset that human beings can't remain in chronological stasis or it ruins the character is top shelf self-entitlement, and just bullshit.

Entertainment is a weird vehicle when it comes to expectations. I owe this to the idea that we don't actually see the the sausage being made, as it were. We don't see the botched takes, or make up application. We get the fantasy packaged and delivered. And while logically we know this is make believe, since we can end up seeing these people day in and day out, at their best, we some times miss out on the realities of time, even subconsciously and emotionally.

But, that also could be complete bs and people just don't like aging.

 

[Tuskin38]

I love that they have the Promellian battle cruiser in a bottle. In TNG: 'Booby Trap', Picard said he had made one when he was a child. It was never seen in the show, only mentioned.

The horse and plough figure is a recreation of a prop seen in the Picard family home in TNG 'Family'. I'm not sure where the shell is from, if anything.

You can see fire damage on the edges of the Enterprise-D painting, most likely from the crash in Generations.

 

[Vale]

I'm not sure where the shell is from, if anything.

There was an ammonite fossil in Picard's ready room aboard the Enterprise-E.

You can see fire damage on the edges of the Enterprise-D painting, most likely from the crash in Generations.

That is a wonderful detail, and I love that they are implying it's the original rather than a reproduction in-universe!

 

[fireproof78]

I love that they have the Promellian battle cruiser in a bottle. In TNG: 'Booby Trap', Picard said he had made one when he was a child. It was never seen in the show, only mentioned.

The horse and plough figure is a recreation of a prop seen in the Picard family home in TNG 'Family'. I'm not sure where the shell is from, if anything.

You can see fire damage on the edges of the Enterprise-D painting, most likely from the crash in Generations.

Was that picture at the Picard house before? I would find that odd given Picard's brother's attitude.

More so, I find it odd that a reproduction wouldn't be just as good?

 

[Tuskin38]

Was that picture at the Picard house before? I would find that odd given Picard's brother's attitude.

No, it’s from Picard’s Ready Room on the Enterprise-D. The damage is from the crash.