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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x08 - "All In"
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i thought he cried when talking to Mary Wiseman because he identified with Tilly about something.
He identified with Tilly trying to get validation from her parents.
Something I can't agree with them on (that ship sailed during my teens and 20s), but it matters to a lot of people.
1000%
I mean, I don't get where this aversion to emotions comes from in some spaces in fandom. I was brought up in a pretty "tough guy" environment, and I did stereotypical "tough guy" things all through life (played football into college, for example, which is considered a pretty meathead thing to do by many), and I have no issue with tears or open emotionalism in drama or in real life. Passion is a beautiful thing sometimes. Let people show it!
Seems to suggest there were extensive reshoots due to something not working out, no?
There isnt really much of an aversion to emotion. That is something posters are getting tarred with because some of us believe that there are a few too many scenes of they are terribly written when they are put in.
Prime example was Tilly's promotion scene.
So, you've been oppressed with a slanderous and inaccurate slant on your well-founded and completely objective criticisms...primarily in an attempt to discredit your completely thoughtful and constructive negative opinions?
That must be tough.
The Visitor definitely gets me. Other candidates (ranging from misty-eyed to bawl):
The father/son "very proud" scene in TWOK (hits me more now as a father than it ever did in the past)
The "oh...oh it's me!" revelation in The Inner Light
George Kirk's final moments in Star Trek (great combination of performance and musical score)
I'm sure there are a few others....Picard's final scene in ...All Good Things (at the poker table) is pretty emotional as well.
Maybe they brought in a guest director for the fight scenes?
I know your being humourous but terms like oppressed are way over the top.So, you've been oppressed with a slanderous and inaccurate slant on your well-founded and completely objective criticisms...primarily in an attempt to discredit your completely thoughtful and constructive negative opinions?
That must be tough.
All I'm going to say is: if Book is back on Discovery at the end of the season, how they get there better be damn good. As it is, it looks he'll be written out of the show. Every time Burnham gave Book an "out" during this episode, he doubled-down.
He's committed to what he's doing, for reasons that are perfectly understandable but indisputably put him at odds with the Federation.
He's committed to what he's doing, for reasons that are perfectly understandable but indisputably put him at odds with the Federation.
Jake and Kira on the promenade at the end of DS9. Also Kira and Odos goodbye.
Kirks speech at Spock's funeral.
Data finding Spot in GEN. Anything involving Picard and his family in that movie.
The FC soundtrack.
I was definitely being tongue-in-cheek (to some extent of course)....!
They used to say the same about commander Nhan, though…
Yeah, but I think DSC is more invested in Adira and Gray being involved in the fabric of the show, given the accolades the show received for representation through these characters (and performers). My worry is that if they don't find an organic and reasonable way to do it, it will look silly.
They were good characters who (in my opinion) were never organically fit into the crew very well. It's a shame.
I actually don't want one or both to come back and save the day. I am not a fan of either character, which is a shame because they both had great potential (meaning, they were conceived as very good, interesting characters) and I really like Stamets and Culber...so it would have been cool to see some better integration and relationships there, but I just don't see it happening. And as such, I've grown sort of biased against liking those two characters. I'd rather see Tilly come back at this point. She was much more organically integrated with the other main cast members.
YMMV of course.
I haven't been able to watch The Visitor or Buffy's The Body ever since my mom died over five years ago because the emotions are too overwhelming.
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