Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x10 - "A Moral Star, Part 2"

[AnimationAdmiral]

For all we know, the virus is integrated and buried in the root code of all of the Protostar’s systems, so even a “blank” data buoy would have invisible subroutines that could be activated upon contact. This is a huge problem for cyber security now, where you can trick otherwise clean systems to run commands that infect themselves just by interacting with them or reading them.

There’s also the real chance that Janeway thinks that something has happened to Chakotay and he’s in danger — the truth remains that rogue agents have stolen the ship with his last known location, whether they get a note to them or not. Starfleet protocol would be to download the ship’s logs to corroborate any story, perhaps thinking they can “contain” any threat, not realizing it’s code far more advanced than theirs designed to outstrip or “honeypot” their security measures into believing they have it
contained. They want to find clues to Chakotay’s whereabouts… especially if they think the kids are lying or clueless about what happened to him (which in fairness, they are definitely the latter.) Starfleet’s “we’ll take it from here, we know what we’re doing — let us verify” scientific approach may be their weakness and downfall that The Diviner is expecting to exploit.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

If you integrate it into the root code, all you have to do is a diff between the original version of the Kernal Files and the current version.

People on the ship shouldn't be messing with Kernal level files, that's just standard operating procedure.

Much less recompliling it without explicit permission from higher up the IT security chain.

That's a HUGE red flag.

Any changes in code will be monitored and compared to original copies.

The fact that anybody tries to mess with the OSes core files, that's a huge problem and should get checked every time a vessel meets another fellow StarFleet vessel.

 

[Noname Given]

...That’s one reason Spock wound up in a quasi mind-meld on the bridge and was easily cured...

You may want to go and re-watch TOS " Is There In Truth No Beauty"

Spock was in no way, "easily cured".

 

[jackoverfull]

If you integrate it into the root code, all you have to do is a diff between the original version of the Kernal Files and the current version.

you must have a unmodified version of the original software to do that. Or at least a checksum of the compiled binaries to be sure they haven’t been tampered with.

But even so, we’re talking real life computers here, Starfleet IT isn’t exactly hardened, we’ve seen countless of times a computer being reprogrammed, taken over by alien intelligences or randomly start to evolve.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

you must have a unmodified version of the original software to do that. Or at least a checksum of the compiled binaries to be sure they haven’t been tampered with.

But even so, we’re talking real life computers here, Starfleet IT isn’t exactly hardened, we’ve seen countless of times a computer being reprogrammed, taken over by alien intelligences or randomly start to evolve.

Hopefully, StarFleet will have started to learn their lessons with bad IT security practices.

I would think losing the FlagShip of the Federation, the Galaxy Class Enterprise-D, to an ancient ass single Klingon Bird of Prey is embarassing enough thanks to the Cyber Malware they implanted in Geordi's Visors.

 

[fireproof78]

you must have a unmodified version of the original software to do that. Or at least a checksum of the compiled binaries to be sure they haven’t been tampered with.

But even so, we’re talking real life computers here, Starfleet IT isn’t exactly hardened, we’ve seen countless of times a computer being reprogrammed, taken over by alien intelligences or randomly start to evolve.

Starfleet computer security is a joke. Computer viruses can infect them with no issue.

Hopefully, StarFleet will have started to learn their lessons with bad IT security practices.

Odds are they won't.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Starfleet computer security is a joke. Computer viruses can infect them with no issue.

Odds are they won't.

-_-

I hope they do, organizations need to learn & grow from their past mistakes.

 

[fireproof78]

-_-

I hope they do, organizations need to learn & grow from their past mistakes.

I'll let you hope.

I hate crushing dreams like this.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I'll let you hope.

I hate crushing dreams like this.

You like crushing dreams, I like dreaming of a better future.
One where stupid mistakes like that don't happen again.

 

[fireproof78]

You like crushing dreams, I like dreaming of a better future.
One where stupid mistakes like that don't happen again.

*sighs*

Well, that was a nice way to end the conversation.

Dreaming of a better future =/= a show getting IT stuff right.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Dreaming of a better future =/= a show getting IT stuff right.

Part of that better future is getting IT stuff right.

Given the importance of IT to our daily lives, it's kinda important.

 

[fireproof78]

Part of that better future is getting IT stuff right.

Given the importance of IT to our daily lives, it's kinda important.

I didn't say otherwise.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I didn't say otherwise.

But you want a future where StarFleet hasn't learned from some of their biggest IT mistakes.

That's a future I don't want to see, especially given the damage that was caused.

We only need to look at other Sci-Fi franchises for mistakes.

Look at NuBSG. The only reasons the Cylons got through was because of a Honey Trap named "Number-Six" used on Gaius Balter and she gained information from him on how to shut down Colonial Defenses.

There are many ways of bypassing technical security.

Malware being one of them, or the classic HoneyPot that gains info via Seduction & Sex.

 

[fireproof78]

But you want a future where StarFleet hasn't learned from some of their biggest IT mistakes.

I...don't.

You are confusing my enjoyment of Star Trek and my predictions of the future. Starfleet is not my prediction of the future. So, I don't hold it to that standard.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I...don't.

You are confusing my enjoyment of Star Trek and my predictions of the future. Starfleet is not my prediction of the future. So, I don't hold it to that standard.

=(

 

[fireproof78]

=(

There is a not a single fictional show set in the future that I hold any stock in as far as prediction humanity's future. That's not the way shows are designed. There is more excitement in current future technology forward thinking than anything in Star Trek, besides warp drive and holodecks.

Why in the flying would I treat an entertainment vehicle as a serious prediction of humanity's future? There are too many variables for an entertaining show to capture to be viable.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

There is a not a single fictional show set in the future that I hold any stock in as far as prediction humanity's future. That's not the way shows are designed. There is more excitement in current future technology forward thinking than anything in Star Trek, besides warp drive and holodecks.

To each his own.

Why in the flying would I treat an entertainment vehicle as a serious prediction of humanity's future? There are too many variables for an entertaining show to capture to be viable.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[fireproof78]

To each his own.


Different strokes for different folks.

I suppose.

I'll go back to crushing dreams, apparently.

 

[jackoverfull]

Hopefully, StarFleet will have started to learn their lessons with bad IT security practices.

seems their security practices became even worse as years passed by. Just think that by the 32th century you can hack holograms by blinking.

 

[dupersuper]

‪‪ over the course of Voyager I think Janeway came across as capabale of pettiness, and vindictiveness at times.

‪‪And this isn’t something exclusive to Janeway, ‪‪I would characterize both Kirk and Picard similarly based on their actions and attitudes from time to time in TOS, TNG, and the films.

How so?