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Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 2

We'll have to agree to disagree there.

On what, that the US has the most powerful military several times over? Because that's not an opinion, that's just fact. And if you think being the most powerful military several times over isn't powerful enough yet, you should really consider what your agenda really is.

The US military & their R&D division is already working on Iron-Man / Spartan style Exo-Skeleton powered suits IRL.

So that's nothing new or surprising.

Yeah, well, the fictional Steel suit we're talking about is several times more advanced than what is currently being developed, what with it's super speed, near-Superman-level strength enhancement, and so forth. So we are talking about a hypothetical here, and that involves creating a power imbalance that puts the one we already have to shame.

Was General Lane that bad?
You could also get good people to be put in charge, it all depends on the writing staff and how they want to structure things for the sake of artificial drama. Since they're insistent on portraying the US military as the bad guys, we get that portrayal.

But you can't count on good people like Sam Lane being in charge. A Sam Lane might be using such a program responsibly, but the next guy might not. That's something you always have to consider, the tools you create might fall into the wrong hands, even when nominally on your side.

That's no different than what's happening IRL with the current business environment.

Well, I guess you're agreeing with me, then. Oh, wait, ...

You don't think that the US Government is monitoring our own Military Contractors to make sure they don't sell to bad actors?

We have entire programs dedicated to monitoring them, to make sure military level arms don't go to the wrong people.

The only difference is what you're selling.

If it isn't a fighter jet, attack chopper, tank, or naval warship, it's a powered suit.

We deal with that risk everyday.

Yeah, and stuff still slips through. And a Steel suit is way smaller than a fighter jet, so it's way easier to slip through.

Traitors, Double Agents, & Leakers are always a threat; in any organization and nation.

That's something we have to deal with and constantly be on the look out for.

That's what I'm saying.

What you should be worried about is our local government officials and their infinite stupidity in what they think of is a good idea. Just look at "Operation Fast & Furious". That was a BAD IDEA from the get go, but the idiots in power wanted it to happen, and all it did was make things worse in Mexico and empowered the cartels.

So, add this to the list of wrong hands such technology could fall into. Seriously, you seem to disagree with me, but you keep making my points for me.

Those Authoritarian Regimes aren't happy with anything the Western Democracies do.
And they're ALWAYS constantly spying, hacking, trying to steal our technological secrets.

Again, you're making my point for me.

Have you not been following the news over the past few decades?

That's just a normal day of the week.

I have been following the news, which is why your "spread democracy through military force" tirade only causes something between amusement and bewilderment in me.

Cuba, has Castro and his family running the entire country for decades.

Cuba?! Cuba. Seriously. You're worried about Cuban spies and the Cuban military, are you? I mean, fucking hell.

They're always on Full Alert / Wary of losing power, especially since our goal as Western Democracies is to make sure their people becomes liberated from Authoritarian Regimes and to see a end to their Despotic ways.

We as Western Democratic Nations have a duty to tear down any Authoritarian Regimes and to bring more Democracy to their people.

That has been our goal since day one. If you don't think that's been our goal as Western Democratic Nations, you're deluding yourself.

The same can be said with any Authoritarian Regime. Their goal is to spread Authoritarianism around the world and to make sure to rule / control everything with their own friends in power or they themselves taking over more land / power.

You don't really think the CCP / Xi Jin-Ping's "Belt & Road Initiatives" are about actually doing good for the world via trade, do you? It's the CCP's tactic for "Debt-Trap Diplomacy" where they slowly take over poorer countries and expand their influence by gaining critical logistic points like a harbor, rail depot, airports, military bases, etc.

If you haven't been following the news, you should. You should be VERY worried about what XJP and the CCP are up to.

The end goal is the same, they want to control the world / rule the world via Authoritarianism.

We, the Western Democratic Countries want a world run by Democracy and a alliance of democratic nations.

The end goal is the same, it's a long term Life/Death struggle for supremacy of ideology, power, & control between Nation States.

What about Saudi-Arabia? They're an authoritaian regime, they oppress members of their own people, they enslave people from poorer countries, they murder journalists, they wage a genocidal war in Yemen, they use their money to buy influence in Western economies and politics. Surely, they have to be at the top of the list of regimes that need to be toppled in the name of democracy, no?


Edit: You know, never mind our own disagreements about geo-politics, the point is simply that fictional John Henry Irons might have reasons (whether you agree with them or not) not to give his suit technology to the US military.
 
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On what, that the US has the most powerful military several times over? Because that's not an opinion, that's just fact. And if you think being the most powerful military several times over isn't powerful enough yet, you should really consider what your agenda really is.
It's not the fact that the US military is the most powerful military on Earth. That's not the contention point.

It's the fact about needing a Super Suit in a World where Superman and Kryptonians exist along with countless other Super Powerful Aliens and Meta-Humans.

We as a species and military are at a HUGE disadvantage.

Just look at the plot last season where they wanted to create an army of Kryptonians.

What would the US military have done if Superman was defeated against the army of Kryptonians?

They'd be SCREWED.

The Kryptonians would've ruled the world.

Yeah, well, the fictional Steel suit we're talking about is several times more advanced than what is currently being developed, what with it's super speed, near-Superman-level strength enhancement, and so forth. So we are talking about a hypothetical here, and that involves creating a power imbalance that puts the one we already have to shame.

Imbalance between whom? Are you more worried about your fellow nation-states, or Hostile Aliens like Morgan Edge?

But you can't count on good people like Sam Lane being in charge. A Sam Lane might be using such a program responsibly, but the next guy might not. That's something you always have to consider, the tools you create might fall into the wrong hands, even when nominally on your side.

Isn't that why the government has vetting programs as to who gets to work for our government / military?

Well, I guess you're agreeing with me, then. Oh, wait, ...

-_-

Yeah, and stuff still slips through. And a Steel suit is way smaller than a fighter jet, so it's way easier to slip through.

It's also way more noticeable and still a giant chunk of hardware to maintain.

It's not like the battery / power source for a suit like that can be found at your local convenience store.

That's what I'm saying.

And it's a risk every Nation-State lives with as a fact of life.

So, add this to the list of wrong hands such technology could fall into. Seriously, you seem to disagree with me, but you keep making my points for me.

My point is, your regular Government Officials is whom you should fear far more than the US military.

They make BAFFLING stupid decisions "In the name of good", that turn out to be worse than any other decision I've ever seen.

Again, you're making my point for me.
That's why we have systems in place to monitor and deal with such threats of transaction of military arms.

I have been following the news, which is why your "spread democracy through military force" tirade only causes something between amusement and bewilderment in me.
Who said anyting about spreading Democracy via Military Force? We need the military to make sure we don't get over run by the enemy forces. We use it primarily for Defense. We haven't gone on to invade Russia / China / Iran / North Korea / Cuba as of late. Everything has been in detente and a holding pattern.

Cuba?! Cuba. Seriously. You're worried about Cuban spies and the Cuban military, are you? I mean, fucking hell.
Have you not been paying attention to what's been going on at our Embassy in Cuba? We only recently have a plausible theory as to what caused Havana Syndrome to our diplomats in Cuba.

The current theory is that they're using Pulsed EM energy, Ultrasound “plausibly” explain Havana syndrome.

Expert panel says other popular hypotheses, like mass psychogenic illness, are unlikely.

What about Saudi-Arabia? They're an authoritaian regime, they oppress members of their own people, they enslave people from poorer countries, they murder journalists, they wage a genocidal war in Yemen, they use their money to buy influence in Western economies and politics. Surely, they have to be at the top of the list of regimes that need to be toppled in the name of democracy, no?
Compared to the other members on the Top of the list of "Bad Actors", they're near the middle to bottom of the pack of threats to deal with compared to the Top 5.

1) China under the CCP / XJP
2) Russia under Putin
3) North Korea under the Kim Dynasty
4) Iran under the Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei
5) Cuba under the Castro Regime
...
 
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If you Kidnap Sarah, then you control Jordan.

Sarah is being monitored.

That sounds like a plausible storyline to come. Why wouldn't Anderson use that particular card (apprehending her / threats to her life) to control/lure SM and/or Jordan?

We'll have to agree to disagree there.

The US military & their R&D division is already working on Iron-Man / Spartan style Exo-Skeleton powered suits IRL.

True.

Was General Lane that bad?
You could also get good people to be put in charge, it all depends on the writing staff and how they want to structure things for the sake of artificial drama. Since they're insistent on portraying the US military as the bad guys, we get that portrayal.

Again, true, and while the US military has a very checkered history, too many productions use the negative as the default position, which can be quite tiresome.
 
Earth One Lois Went to Argo City, off in space, so that the twins didn't kick their way out of her at 6 weeks.

I wonder where Earth Prime Lois went, and I wonder where they'll take Sarah, and if it counts as Kidnapping if they don't loop Kyle in?

Yes, Argo City is floating nearby, now, but it wasn't 16 years ago when Lois was Preggers.
 
Earth One Lois Went to Argo City, off in space, so that the twins didn't kick their way out of her at 6 weeks.

I wonder where Earth Prime Lois went, and I wonder where they'll take Sarah, and if it counts as Kidnapping if they don't loop Kyle in?

Yes, Argo City is floating nearby, now, but it wasn't 16 years ago when Lois was Preggers.
The Fortress. Jor-El thought of everything.
 
Earth One Superman was a freewheeling bachelor and didn't want to raise a 16 year old girl, or if he's from a planet where it's okay to marry your cousin (like some Superman comics from the 1950s), he didn't want to seem like he's Hal Jordan grooming a child to marry.

Earth Prime Superman was probably with Lois and they would have been talking about kids, when Kara made Earthfall. By the time Kara was 21, the twins would have been born and raising Super Babies is her raison d'etre.
 
Jordan’s story is just Smallville again. All we need is Lex’s kid to be friends with him and we’re right back in. :)
 
Sam is spying on his family.

Sam is a private citizen.

Sam is using Private contractors, not DOD analysts.

Sam is using his own money.

But he is stealing DOB resources.

Hacking Satellites, exploiting DOD hacks and back doors.

You know that the CIA invented Grindr?

Sam stole/defrauded a lot of money, or probably looted a lot of battlefields over the last 30 years, or he's in charge of checkmate.
 
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"Cheating" is what you partner considers is cheating. If don't agree about her/his definition, well, leave her/him. But you can't have a free pass because "you know, our definitions of 'cheating' don't match!". I had a colleague who said with some conviction that he was not cheating on his wife, because if you don't "kiss on the mouth and you sleep (in the sense of really sleeping) with the other", it is not true cheating. He simply didn't inform his wife to avoid "unnecessary discussions".
 
"Cheating" is what you partner considers is cheating.

So one partner gets to decide unilaterally and doesn't need to listen to the other's side? What a toxic way to think. Relationships that work are based on trust, listening, and understanding, not looking for excuses to assume the worst about the other party and presume them guilty.
 
I found it slightly amusing that the actress playing Lucy is actually older than Elizabeth Tulloch, despite her being the younger sister.

Of course, it's just a 1 month age difference. And the real actor age thing is how Dylan Walsh (General Lane) is only 17 years older than them.
 
I found it slightly amusing that the actress playing Lucy is actually older than Elizabeth Tulloch, despite her being the younger sister.

Of course, it's just a 1 month age difference. And the real actor age thing is how Dylan Walsh (General Lane) is only 17 years older than them.
I said the same thing about the Smallville cast. Welling is only 17 years younger than Schieder.
 
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