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Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 2

He could tell you, but then he'd have to kill you.
Total digression here, but does anyone know where that expression first came from? Probably some spy story. It's a cliche now, but I have the impression that I never encountered it growing up, so maybe it originated within my lifetime.
It has most definitely become a cliche. Doesn't stop people from still saying it, though, as it's taken up permanent residence in the pop culture zeitgeist. My invariable response to that (having been a defense contractor for over 15 years when someone gets cute and says something like that to me), is "Nah... we got guys for that." Delivered with a stone-cold straight face, shuts them right the hell up.
 
I think John Henry Irons needs to remote operate his Suit.

There's literally no reason he needs to be there in person when he can remote in via Satellite or control a group of Androids remotely.

He's putting himself in unnecessary danger on the front line.
 
There's literally no reason he needs to be there in person when he can remote in via Satellite or control a group of Androids remotely.

Satellites have a time lag. If it's a satellite in synchronous orbit (0.12 light-seconds altitude), that's nearly a quarter-second round-trip signal lag, plus there's the processing lag within the satellite itself. In the middle of a fight, a reaction-time delay of even half a second can be critical. Plus radio signals can be interfered with or cut off.
 
Me am sure sad not Doomsday in suit! :lol:

How the heck did Sam Lane access a random convenience store's security video from a golf course in a matter of seconds?
I wondered that myself! Powerful guy. :lol:

It doesn't count if you're drunk.
Funny, but also sadly true in a sense. Lots of people do stupid things when drunk, and alcoholics do even more. I was surprised at first by the scene, but then I wasn't. This is something Kyle is going to have to deal with - stopping drinking is only one step (pun intended) in dealing with one's addiction.

I wanted to briefly weigh in on the "cheating" discussion. IME, what constitutes "cheating" can vary from person to person. Most people never really talk about this in their relationships, partially because monogamy is often the unquestioned default (at least in an individual's mind, especially in one's early relationships), partially because everyone thinks they "know it when they see it", and partially because they don't think they need to talk about it.

Sarah is turning 15. A kiss (or even a fling) at summer camp is kind of normal. I *think* that's what Lana's talk to her was supposed to be about, but I agree it was written poorly. Coming clean to Jordan was completely the Right Thing to Do. 15 year old Jordan freaking out initially is also completely normal. When you think you've found THE ONE, anything that threatens or destroys that brings up all sorts of insecurities and can cause you to act like a complete psycho (I speak from experience, having been the psycho when I was 21). I was very glad to see that 1) Clark was kind but firm - he recognized Jordan's feelings as valid while also understanding that a relationship between teens isn't going to last, and 2) Jordan and Sarah resolved it. Was it "cheating"? It depends on your definition. I've known people who cheated as teens - there's a reason "young" and "stupid" are so often put together - and were able to repair their relationships in some way (usually becoming friends).

Kyle's situation is more complex. X years of marriage, plus 2 kids. Alcoholism. Lying (if it proves to be the case that he never told Lana). Most monogamous people definitely see sex with someone other than their spouse as cheating. It does break up some relationships. But sometimes it doesn't. It completely depends on the people involved and what they choose to do. I'm interested to see what the writers do.
 
Total digression here, but does anyone know where that expression first came from? Probably some spy story. It's a cliche now, but I have the impression that I never encountered it growing up, so maybe it originated within my lifetime.

The Gospel of Thomas
(written between 50-260CE)

Saying 13: Thomas' Confession

Jesus said to his disciples, "If you were to compare me to someone, who would you say I'm like?"

Simon Peter said to him, "You're like a just angel."

Matthew said to him, "You're like a wise philosopher."

Thomas said to him, "Teacher, I'm completely unable to say whom you're like."

Jesus said, "I'm not your teacher. Because you've drunk, you've become intoxicated by the bubbling spring I've measured out."

He took him aside and told him three things. When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked, "What did Jesus say to you?"

Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the things he said to me, you'll pick up stones and cast them at me, and fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."

https://www.gospels.net/thomas/

Gospel of Thomas - Wikipedia
 
Satellites have a time lag. If it's a satellite in synchronous orbit (0.12 light-seconds altitude), that's nearly a quarter-second round-trip signal lag, plus there's the processing lag within the satellite itself. In the middle of a fight, a reaction-time delay of even half a second can be critical. Plus radio signals can be interfered with or cut off.
While all that is true, doesn't the D.E.O. have some sort of advanced Subspace Radio tech that would allow FTL Radios?

And if reaction-time is an issue, why not add in Android AI to the mix, and John Henry Irons can manage them remotely.

Or worst case scenario, he can be like Tony Stark and have "Team Iron-Man" suits that all look like his armor and he can remotely control while on the battle field at closer range.
 
With the whole conversation between Lana and Sarah, I really don't think it was that bad, it wasn't so much about being with someone who overlooks cheating, but about being with someone who is willing to forgive a mistake. If this was an ongoing thing that she did repeated over and over, then I could see where it would be bad advice. Looking at it this way, it would also not be hypocritical of Lana to be mad at Kyle, since it sounds like his was an ongoing affair, not just a one time mistake.
I knew the Supermen of America were pretty much doomed the moment they went to confront Bizzaro. I do like how the one survivor is the one character the audience has known longer.
Curious to see where they go with Natalie now, I just hope they don't have her totally turn against the Kents.
Johnathan using the "yellow mist" didn't seem to do any damage yet, but that doesn't mean it won't later.
It definitely seems like this is a very different version of Lucy Lane from the Pre-Crisis version on Supergirl. I don't remember her seeming like the type to end up where this version has.
I'm a little disappointed that they seem to be turning Chrissy against Lois.
 
I hope the "Yellow Mist" permanently activates Jonathan Kent's latent / dormant powers and starts him out on the path to being Super Powered.
 
While all that is true, doesn't the D.E.O. have some sort of advanced Subspace Radio tech that would allow FTL Radios?

Even if the DEO hadn't ceased to exist a couple of years ago, we're talking about a show that won't even acknowledge that Clark has a superpowered cousin.


And if reaction-time is an issue, why not add in Android AI to the mix, and John Henry Irons can manage them remotely.

The point is that the time lag in satellite communication would delay your reaction time no matter how fast you were, because you wouldn't know there was something to react to until a quarter-second or more after it happened, which could be fatal in fast-paced action.


I knew the Supermen of America were pretty much doomed the moment they went to confront Bizzaro. I do like how the one survivor is the one character the audience has known longer.

That felt contrived to me, like plot armor.

It definitely seems like this is a very different version of Lucy Lane from the Pre-Crisis version on Supergirl. I don't remember her seeming like the type to end up where this version has.

Yeah, she had a completely different personality there. I'm kind of surprised they even brought back the same actress.


I'm a little disappointed that they seem to be turning Chrissy against Lois.

Seems to be in keeping with how depressing this whole season is getting, with the protagonists unable to score a win no matter what they do.

Chrissy looked kinda nice in that blond wig, though. Her usual bangs don't flatter her.
 
I hope the "Yellow Mist" permanently activates Jonathan Kent's latent / dormant powers and starts him out on the path to being Super Powered.
I think it's much more interesting to have one non-powered brother. An ongoing problem with the Arrowverse shows is their not being able to find narrative value or purpose in characters unless they have superpowers and/or take on superhero costumes and codenames. "Normal" people have roles to play in these stories, too (one of them is half the show's title).
 
All Sam Lane needs to do is make a phone call to the Flash who can run their real quick. Run a tech thing over it that scrambles the image and presto the image is erased.
 
While all that is true, doesn't the D.E.O. have some sort of advanced Subspace Radio tech that would allow FTL Radios?

And if reaction-time is an issue, why not add in Android AI to the mix, and John Henry Irons can manage them remotely.

Or worst case scenario, he can be like Tony Stark and have "Team Iron-Man" suits that all look like his armor and he can remotely control while on the battle field at closer range.

In a show about an alien superbeing and his family you sure went off into SF territory :lol:

In the end the reality is easy - they want the actor in the suit because of action and drama and that won't change.

All Sam Lane needs to do is make a phone call to the Flash who can run their real quick. Run a tech thing over it that scrambles the image and presto the image is erased.

Why so complicated? All he needs to do is call the army IT department ( i'm sure even as an ex-general he still holds some weight in the military), call in a favor and shortly describe what needs to be done - call it a "national security issue" ( blanket explanation for basically everything shady that needs to be done) and just wait a minute.

Hell, being a paranoid bastard he may have already at least nabbed the code of each smartphone of the Kent's so he could pinpoint their location in an emergency and he just told them to locate Jordan's phone so they know which store camera needs alteration.
 
Maybe if John Henry Irons shared his suit tech with the US Military, he might be able to get parts & resources to build his own ultimate suit.

Imagine what the US military can do if every operator of the suit was that powerful.
 
Maybe if John Henry Irons shared his suit tech with the US Military, he might be able to get parts & resources to build his own ultimate suit.

Imagine what the US military can do if every operator of the suit was that powerful.

Obviously, we need a better leader in charge of the division, but instead of having kids with Super Powers, they can properly have regular soldiers be on a level at least semi-close to Superman levels.

Uh, ... yikes?!

First off, the US military is already the most powerful military in the world several times over. The last thing they need is super suits that

Second, the fact that a guy like Anderson is put in charge of this operation shows that you can't depend on the military to put the right people in positions of power. Even if you get rid of Anderson, the replacement might be just as bad or even worse.

Not to mention that, third, other branches of the military would want their own suits, including Black Ops, then we're into mass production, which the military wouldn't do themselves but outsource it to Lockheed-Martin or another such big arms manufacturer, so not only would the risk of a bad actor in the military using the suits for their own agenda be way too high, but there is a high potential for corrupt businesspeople selling these suits on the black market. So suddenly, you're faced with terrorists and criminal organisations with Steel suits.

And, forth, what do you think other countries would make of this? You think Russia, China, North Korea and Iran would be happy? Of course not. Hell, Russia feels threatened by regular NATO troops too close their border, if the US military had Steel suits, they'd be on full alert. Not only would all these countries (and others, as well) have their own tech departments working on coming up with similar suits, they'd have spies trying their hardest getting their hands on blueprints. So now you've got a new international arms race over super suits.
 
Why so complicated? All he needs to do is call the army IT department ( i'm sure even as an ex-general he still holds some weight in the military), call in a favor and shortly describe what needs to be done - call it a "national security issue" ( blanket explanation for basically everything shady that needs to be done) and just wait a minute.

"A minute" is the problem. The impression I got from the scene was that Jordan had only told him about the security video moments before on the same call. It didn't seem to me that Sam had time to call anyone else and arrange for anything.
 
Jesus.

Sam is always spying on his grand children and son in law. He has a crew 80 dod analysts on a three shift rotation, monitoring every camera on the planet tracking his family's movement, because the very second he doesn't know that they are completely safe is when some whack job like the Joker kills all of them, or Jordan has sex with a farm girl of kleenex, and shatters her face with a wad of super jiz.

Sam Lane's people and observed what happened, whipped the tape, and then sent a report to Sam about everything that had happened before Jordan made the call to gran pappy.

If you Kidnap Sarah, then you control Jordan.

Sarah is being monitored.

Sam has a recording of her infidelity.

I think John Henry Irons needs to remote operate his Suit.

There's literally no reason he needs to be there in person when he can remote in via Satellite or control a group of Androids remotely.

He's putting himself in unnecessary danger on the front line.

X-ray vision isn't x-rays, but I remember in Superman Birthright, a revised new origin story printed in 2004, Kal can see radio waves. He followed the radio link between a Lex suit battle armour and Luthor's secret lab.

Lex said "Since you can't prove that in a court of law, please go away before I charge you with trespass."

Is heat vision electromagnetic?

I suspect if it became nesessary, that Clark can build a large electro magnet out of a car and overhead power lines very quickly.

God I'm old.

Over head power lines are an endangered species.

Wait?

If Clark can see radio, is he blinded by WiFi?

If 5G got him to the point that he leaves Metropolis, 7G is going to make the man of Steel ditch the Earth.
 
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Uh, ... yikes?!

First off, the US military is already the most powerful military in the world several times over. The last thing they need is super suits that
We'll have to agree to disagree there.

The US military & their R&D division is already working on Iron-Man / Spartan style Exo-Skeleton powered suits IRL.

So that's nothing new or surprising.

Second, the fact that a guy like Anderson is put in charge of this operation shows that you can't depend on the military to put the right people in positions of power. Even if you get rid of Anderson, the replacement might be just as bad or even worse.
Was General Lane that bad?
You could also get good people to be put in charge, it all depends on the writing staff and how they want to structure things for the sake of artificial drama. Since they're insistent on portraying the US military as the bad guys, we get that portrayal.

Not to mention that, third, other branches of the military would want their own suits, including Black Ops, then we're into mass production, which the military wouldn't do themselves but outsource it to Lockheed-Martin or another such big arms manufacturer, so not only would the risk of a bad actor in the military using the suits for their own agenda be way too high, but there is a high potential for corrupt businesspeople selling these suits on the black market. So suddenly, you're faced with terrorists and criminal organisations with Steel suits.
That's no different than what's happening IRL with the current business environment.

You don't think that the US Government is monitoring our own Military Contractors to make sure they don't sell to bad actors?

We have entire programs dedicated to monitoring them, to make sure military level arms don't go to the wrong people.

The only difference is what you're selling.

If it isn't a fighter jet, attack chopper, tank, or naval warship, it's a powered suit.

We deal with that risk everyday.

Traitors, Double Agents, & Leakers are always a threat; in any organization and nation.

That's something we have to deal with and constantly be on the look out for.

What you should be worried about is our local government officials and their infinite stupidity in what they think of is a good idea. Just look at "Operation Fast & Furious". That was a BAD IDEA from the get go, but the idiots in power wanted it to happen, and all it did was make things worse in Mexico and empowered the cartels.

And, forth, what do you think other countries would make of this? You think Russia, China, North Korea and Iran would be happy? Of course not. Hell, Russia feels threatened by regular NATO troops too close their border, if the US military had Steel suits, they'd be on full alert. Not only would all these countries (and others, as well) have their own tech departments working on coming up with similar suits, they'd have spies trying their hardest getting their hands on blueprints. So now you've got a new international arms race over super suits.
Those Authoritarian Regimes aren't happy with anything the Western Democracies do.
And they're ALWAYS constantly spying, hacking, trying to steal our technological secrets.

Have you not been following the news over the past few decades?

That's just a normal day of the week.

The Powers in charge in Russia, China, North Korea, & Iran?

They FEAR Democracy and losing their strangle hold on absolute Power at the top of their government.

Xi Jin-Ping, he fears losing power; that's why he wrote his name into the Chinese Constitution to make himself President for life. Or as I like to call him, Presitator for life.

Do you think Vladamir Putin will give up power at the top? The man is on his 4th Presidential Term. The ex-KGB agent is has been in power at the top since 1999.

North Korea has the Kim Dynasty that cements their family at the top since the end of the Korean War.

Iran has their chosen Religious leaders at the top.

Cuba, has Castro and his family running the entire country for decades.

They're always on Full Alert / Wary of losing power, especially since our goal as Western Democracies is to make sure their people becomes liberated from Authoritarian Regimes and to see a end to their Despotic ways.

We as Western Democratic Nations have a duty to tear down any Authoritarian Regimes and to bring more Democracy to their people.

That has been our goal since day one. If you don't think that's been our goal as Western Democratic Nations, you're deluding yourself.

The same can be said with any Authoritarian Regime. Their goal is to spread Authoritarianism around the world and to make sure to rule / control everything with their own friends in power or they themselves taking over more land / power.

You don't really think the CCP / Xi Jin-Ping's "Belt & Road Initiatives" are about actually doing good for the world via trade, do you? It's the CCP's tactic for "Debt-Trap Diplomacy" where they slowly take over poorer countries and expand their influence by gaining critical logistic points like a harbor, rail depot, airports, military bases, etc.

If you haven't been following the news, you should. You should be VERY worried about what XJP and the CCP are up to.

The end goal is the same, they want to control the world / rule the world via Authoritarianism.

We, the Western Democratic Countries want a world run by Democracy and a alliance of democratic nations.

The end goal is the same, it's a long term Life/Death struggle for supremacy of ideology, power, & control between Nation States.
 
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