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Avro Arrow said:
But isn't that a good thing? I thought the science had been telling us for a while now that the risk from fomite transmission is pretty low. The experts have been telling us that we should be putting an end to hygiene theatre and focus more on masking, reducing contacts, improved ventilation, and other measures to help protect against aerosols.
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The contact risk was low, but not zero. Many are ditching masks and distancing.

We are so not ready for the real zombie apocalypse.

I just learned someone I had worked with, and a friend of my sisters-in-law had passed away of COVID pneumonia yesterday. My wife has had a mild case for almost two weeks.
 
wayoung said:
I've read/re-read Ken Follets Kingsbridge books the last year. In the fall I was on World Without End. I was shocked how, in the book, during the black death, the characters all made the same arguments anti-maskers/anti lockdown people are making now. I know it's fiction, but it was written 15 years ago, long before Covid, which is why it was so surprising.
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Edgar Allen Poe beat him to it by over 150 years.

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I've thought of that Poe story a lot over the course of this. I even re-read it. People don't seem to change much. :sigh:

My mom said she and my dad have the flu. She has a fever she can't shake. Of course, since they're loonies, it might be COVID, but I daren't even suggest they get tested. :brickwall:
 
Commander Troi said:
I've thought of that Poe story a lot over the course of this. I even re-read it. People don't seem to change much. :sigh:

My mom said she and my dad have the flu. She has a fever she can't shake. Of course, since they're loonies, it might be COVID, but I daren't even suggest they get tested. :brickwall:
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Ugh. I know it suxs! I don't even talk to my brother anymore either, nothing good ever comes from it anyway. All together now... :brickwall:
 
My biggest frustration is the ones that are complaining the most are the ones that are prolonging it.

When my girlfriend, her daughter and granddaughter caught Omicron right after New Year, it was upsetting because they had their shots, been boosted and were doing everything they could to stay safe.

My cousin, who's a registered nurse for almost thirty years and been on the front lines since the pandemic started, is always on Facebook complaining about how overworked and understaffed she and the E.R. is; yet is anti-mask, anti-vax and is posting conspiracy theories about it's the government that's covering up where the virus came from and don't trust the CDC.

I had a coworker quit a couple of weeks ago because she refused to wear a mask in the store and say whether or not she'd been vaccinated or take a weekly test. She has a newborn son. I'll feel sorry for him should he catch Covid, because he's an infant and can't control his situation; but I'll feel no sympathy for the mother if she catches it and was the one that infected the child, because, while not stopping the spread, the simple act of wearing a mask could have lessened the risk of transmission.
 
DarrenTR1970 said:
My biggest frustration is the ones that are complaining the most are the ones that are prolonging it.

When my girlfriend, her daughter and granddaughter caught Omicron right after New Year, it was upsetting because they had their shots, been boosted and were doing everything they could to stay safe.

My cousin, who's a registered nurse for almost thirty years and been on the front lines since the pandemic started, is always on Facebook complaining about how overworked and understaffed she and the E.R. is; yet is anti-mask, anti-vax and is posting conspiracy theories about it's the government that's covering up where the virus came from and don't trust the CDC.

I had a coworker quit a couple of weeks ago because she refused to wear a mask in the store and say whether or not she'd been vaccinated or take a weekly test. She has a newborn son. I'll feel sorry for him should he catch Covid, because he's an infant and can't control his situation; but I'll feel no sympathy for the mother if she catches it and was the one that infected the child, because, while not stopping the spread, the simple act of wearing a mask could have lessened the risk of transmission.
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The thing is people seem to have it in their heads that because it doesnt eliminate transmission then its not worth doing.

That seems to be the argument i hear. I do pose the question but why wear a seat belt then? Because it saves lives apparently, but does it prevent all deaths? Erm no but thats different, maybe its because seat belts protect us and not others and thats fundamentally the issue here, that some people dont give a damn as long as they are ok.

Today in town i would say the majority where mask less even though its still law here. Almost makes you feel like you are the one in the wrong for wearing one.
 
DarrenTR1970 said:
My cousin, who's a registered nurse for almost thirty years and been on the front lines since the pandemic started, is always on Facebook complaining about how overworked and understaffed she and the E.R. is; yet is anti-mask, anti-vax and is posting conspiracy theories about it's the government that's covering up where the virus came from and don't trust the CDC.
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Well, that'd be a whole pet-peeve in itself! That is one truly ironic situation, and somewhat of a paradox. Nurses really should know better and should be the ones understanding the need for these mandates the most, and protesting against it would only lead to to them feeling more understaffed and overworked due to more and more nurses being down for the count due to the virus. Can they not see the cause and effect?

Over here, our hospital is at overcapacity and it's understaffed. They've actually just recently had to reactivate nurses, presumably retired ones, just to be able to deal with the issues. They currently have outbreaks on 3 different floors. They've also had to open up beds at convalescent homes to deal with the overflow.
 
DarrenTR1970 said:
My cousin, who's a registered nurse for almost thirty years and been on the front lines since the pandemic started, is always on Facebook complaining about how overworked and understaffed she and the E.R. is; yet is anti-mask, anti-vax and is posting conspiracy theories about it's the government that's covering up where the virus came from and don't trust the CDC.
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This I really don't get. How can you be in the medical profession, and yet be so against medical science??

We have had some pretty high-profile instances here in Ontario where nurses were spreading a lot of anti-vax, anti-mask rhetoric too. The mind boggles.
 
Avro Arrow said:
This I really don't get. How can you be in the medical profession, and yet be so against medical science??

We have had some pretty high-profile instances here in Ontario where nurses were spreading a lot of anti-vax, anti-mask rhetoric too. The mind boggles.
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I've known a lot of nurses prior to Covid who were super into essential oils, reiki, crystals, that thing where you stand in salt water and all your "toxins" drain out, etc. etc. They're on the front lines, they see modern medicine failing all the time, and look for alternatives to try. All that stuff and the associated communities were maybe made fun of a bit by people but generally looked upon as quirky. Not a concern. Then it morphed into anti vax:shrug:
 
Avro Arrow said:
This I really don't get. How can you be in the medical profession, and yet be so against medical science??
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Yeah, that's one thing that really puzzles me. The only thing I can think of is that it might be a union related viewpoint, although if that's the case, you would think the union would make it a point to heavily enforce the vaccine as a way to make sure all nurses can do their jobs safely and without concern, otherwise it'd become a fairly big union issue.
 
Owain Taggart said:
Yeah, that's one thing that really puzzles me. The only thing I can think of is that it might be a union related viewpoint, although if that's the case, you would think the union would make it a point to heavily enforce the vaccine as a way to make sure all nurses can do their jobs safely and without concern, otherwise it'd become a fairly big union issue.
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I'm not sure it would be union-related. ONA's official stance is that they recommend all health-care workers to get vaccinated. (While "recognizing that this is a decision that needs to be made by the health-care worker based on voluntary and informed consent, and where appropriate, with the advice of a health-care professional.")

I've tried to find anything online regarding ONA's response to an infamous local anti-vax nurse, and couldn't see anything. I did see that RNAO (a professional association) condemned her actions, and the CNO (the governing body) was investigating her conduct (as of a year ago), but I couldn't find anything regarding the union's position. (Although, as a union, I would assume they were opposed to her firing?)
 
Avro Arrow said:
I'm not sure it would be union-related. ONA's official stance is that they recommend all health-care workers to get vaccinated. (While "recognizing that this is a decision that needs to be made by the health-care worker based on voluntary and informed consent, and where appropriate, with the advice of a health-care professional.")
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Ok, that makes sense given the fact that it feels like such a contradiction. The behavior of the nurses, not the union, I mean. Which then brings into question of how they can deign to stay in the union while believing the complete opposite of the union's mission. At a certain point, one's gotta ask, how can they keep their licenses? That'd be a whole story there in itself.
 
wayoung said:
I've known a lot of nurses prior to Covid who were super into essential oils, reiki, crystals, that thing where you stand in salt water and all your "toxins" drain out, etc. etc. They're on the front lines, they see modern medicine failing all the time, and look for alternatives to try. All that stuff and the associated communities were maybe made fun of a bit by people but generally looked upon as quirky. Not a concern. Then it morphed into anti vax:shrug:
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Sadly, I have seen that in alt-med types. Thankfully, not all of them, but enough to make me :brickwall:
 
Have you had any booster side effects? Nothing happened after my first shot but I got a fever after my second. So far the only thing the booster has given me is a sore arm.
 
Was "dumped" Thursday by a girl I've been hanging out with for a month. Little depressing. We were still very much still getting to know each other, not in a relationship, but texting all day every day, video dates, few in person dates before and after I got sick, etc. I'm a lonely guy so it's a big loss when I go from having someone to talk to all the time back to nothing. So I went back on the apps.

Talked to another girl for three days. Was going really well.

Then Covid came up....

Covid is fake to make people take the vaccines which are what really makes people sick, no one who has ever gotten Covid has been unvaxxed, I'm a sheeple.

:brickwall:
 
wayoung said:
Was "dumped" Thursday by a girl I've been hanging out with for a month. Little depressing. We were still very much still getting to know each other, not in a relationship, but texting all day every day, video dates, few in person dates before and after I got sick, etc. I'm a lonely guy so it's a big loss when I go from having someone to talk to all the time back to nothing. So I went back on the apps.

Talked to another girl for three days. Was going really well.

Then Covid came up....

Covid is fake to make people take the vaccines which are what really makes people sick, no one who has ever gotten Covid has been unvaxxed, I'm a sheeple.

:brickwall:
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Bullet dogged.
 
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