Given that the Vaadwur are back and others already use the "SubSpace Corridors".
I'm guessing the secrets about their existence will get blurted out eventually to all the species who reside in the Delta Quadrant.
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I'm guessing the secrets about their existence will get blurted out eventually to all the species who reside in the Delta Quadrant.
That would seem like the more logical explanation (especially after the Vaud'war entered the scene)... but we shouldn't underestimate the Kazon either.
Who knows how the region changed after VOY left (and they stirred up enough to potentially prompt some of the Kazon sects to 'eventually' band together and potentially do some R&D).
Or they could've reverted into worse "In-fighting".
Huh. The "USS Protostar" labelling on the secondary hull is only on the port side, not starboard as well.
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The REV-12 would take "months" to traverse the 4000 light years that the Protostar jaunted. Even by 2370s warp drive standards, that's pretty fast!
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The ProtoStar did disappear from the claws / grasps of the REV-12 like you would see "The Flash" running away from a person.
And they were at Warp Speeds while this happened.
So the Acceleration and Top Speed in terms of Warp Factor must've been pretty nuts for the Inertial Dampeners to be barely able to compensate and not turn the crew into chunky salsa and for the crew to feel acceleration, yet be alive.
But the bad guys were smart, they sent a manufacturing order over subspace along with AI code to be made by the Vehicle Replicator. Ergo Drednok being made.
That means that there is a weakness in terms of subspace communications protocol to allow somebody to control the vehicle replicator.
More often then not, that had to be an "Inside Job" which means somebody betrayed the original crew of the ProtoStar.
The bigger question is that StarFleet has Telepaths in the form of Betazoids amongst their ranks.
Should StarFleet and the UFP government be legally allowed to use Telepaths to deep scan the minds of potential officers for potential traitors in hiding?
Also use Cyber Telepathy to scan for loyalty / record mental thoughts?
That's the question I'm curious about.
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It's a legitimate question that applies.
When you have Vulcans who are touch telepaths, Betazoids that are Full Telepaths, and there's countless species who have already made telepathic electronics.
If you could use that to gurantee no more "Traitors" in your midst amongst all forms of Government & Enlisted service positions, why wouldn't you?
The UFP already has Psycho Tricorders, Klingons have Mind Scanners, Romulans have Mind Probes, the Breen had Cortical Implants. All do the same thing and can record your thoughts.
This is a plot point in the non-canon Star Trek: New Frontier novels. The Selelvians are telepathic space elves and have been UFP members. They use their skill, called “the knack”, to manipulate the Federation Council. After it is revealed in 2376, the Selelvians are expelled from the Federation and Starfleet.
That's what happens when you abuse your powers, those Selelvians deserve to be expelled for abusing their Telepathic gifts.
You normally don't see Vulcans doing Mind Melds without consent on normal people who are in a full healthy state.
The only times that a Mind Meld happens without consent is in terms of medical emergency.
*raises eyebrow in Valeris*
According to the novelization of TFF, Sybok was using melds to heal his followers in a way that wasn't consistent with traditional Vulcan etiquette. Spock said it was normally only done with a willing participant, with the occasional exception. Sybok was also kicked off Vulcan for attacking the security who guarded the tombs, as he was being manipulated by the god-entity and wanted to take his mother's katra with him. That was the crime that got him expelled, rather than just favoring emotions over logic.
That makes Vulcan look...less horrible. I still don't see why he wouldn't just be arrested.
Stands to reason the REV-12 has a powerful Warp drive.
VOY was limited to 1000 Ly's per year... which was excessively slow (and this would be below Warp 9 I'd say - maybe Warp 8?). It wasn't even able to maintain a speed of 9.75 for longer than haff a day (not 9.975 - that was just never a thing and more of an error).
The USS Prometheus however (as seen in VOY season 4) was able to cruise at Warp 9.9 without issues.
Warp 9.9 was mentioned on-screen by Tom Paris to be 21 473 times speed of light... at that speed, it would take 5.3 months for a ship to travel through 4000 Ly's.
Its not impossible for the REV-12 to be capable of sustaining Warp 9.9 indefinitely just like the Prometheus was able.
I wouldn't be surprised if most SF ships in 2383 were capable of reaching and sustaining Warp 9.9, or possibly even Warp 9.91 (which would be double the speed of 9.9 seeing how speeds increase exponentially along with power draw with every increment past 9.9.).
Maybe a SF ship could sustain 9.9 if it were always in full repair?
The USS Prometheus was able to sustain 9.9 without problems... so I don't think a state of 'full repair' has much of a merit... well, it obviously does because you can't be expected to haul a half vaporized hull at 21 473 times speed of light without reinforcing it with forcefields etc.
My guess is that since we hadn't seen Warp speeds for SF ships exceeding 9.6 (except in only emergencies) in TNG and DS9, Voyager by same admission would be limited to a TEMPORARILY sustained cruising velocity of Warp 9.75 (no more than 12 hours perhaps)... it was just never designed to do Warp 9.9 for any period of time... at that point, structural collapse would occur in under 1 minute as we saw in Threshold (which was arguably in line with previous series in terms of Warp capabilities of SF ships of that time).
So, I'd imagine that starting with the Prometheus, SF found a way to shore up the Structural integrity field (SIF) without draining too much power (aka vastly improved efficiency) and had more powerful warp cores... but the Prometheus also had the benefit of multiple Warp cores at its disposal if I'm not mistaken, so that's kinda like brute forcing your way to sustainable Warp 9.9.
However, that was about 3 years after VOY was lost... so by the time VOY returned (2378), SF would have probably been able to increase most fleet ships speeds to a sustainable Warp 9.6 or 9.7 (the newer ships like the Galaxy, Sovereign and Intrepid classes probably were already able to reach 9.8 and sustain it without much trouble).
Warp 9.9 would certainly be viable with more breathroughs in efficiency which would allow shoring up SIF and stronger Warp core energy output on recently commissioned ships (I'd say any design from TNG era onward would be viable for Warp 9.9 and maybe a notch beyond).
Older ships might have somewhat limited Warp, but they would receive upgrades with the rest of the fleet on a regular basis, so, reaching and maintaining 9.9 would also be possible for them too (although it may take a year or two longer compared to newest ships - and it also depends on when ships actually go for their overhauls - we've seen the USS Cerritos was a fairly weak ship in Season 1 that faired badly against Pakled ships... after it received a refit by the end of Season 1, it was able to keep up with the Pakled warship and a Klingon BoP for a much longer time without falling apart).
I'd say its a matter of upgrades/refit... most ships are deployed for LONG periods of time... and some might not see a drydock for YEARS... and when they do, its possible they are a year of 6 months early (aka before the better engine upgrades for their ship class are available).
So, by 2383, its possible that most SF ships are capable of reaching and maintaining Warp 9.9 without much effort... certainly enough time has passed (and technology was brought back, studied and probably developed) to allow for that to happen.
It's also not surprising the REV-12 might be capable of sustained Warp 9.9 (its a rather massive ship, therefore it has more space for engines, power core, etc.)... effectively brute forcing its way to that speed like the USS Prometheus may have had to (but the Prometheus was a lot smaller, and therefore was probably more EFFICIENT by design).
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- Hum, so the Protostar has "fast charging" capability on top of the regular replenishment for the protowarp drive?
- The uniforms are snazzy. But if Dal found his in the Captain's quarters, why doesn't it have red trim or any rank pips? Or did he pull out whatever was in there and then ask the replicator to come up with a cadet variant in his size, since he and Chakotay are certainly not? Fun how he leaves his boots unbuckled, though.
- I hadn't mentioned how messy the ship has become with effectively a bunch of teenagers in charge. Guess some things are indeed a universal constant. Still, other places like the shuttlebay are being tidied when Murph isn't eating things or people aren't replicating vehicles, so perhaps Janeway is deliberately leaving the quarters and mess hall a wreck as a lesson or something?
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- Hum, so the Protostar has "fast charging" capability on top of the regular replenishment for the protowarp drive?
- The uniforms are snazzy. But if Dal found his in the Captain's quarters, why doesn't it have red trim or any rank pips? Or did he pull out whatever was in there and then ask the replicator to come up with a cadet variant in his size, since he and Chakotay are certainly not? Fun how he leaves his boots unbuckled, though.
- I hadn't mentioned how messy the ship has become with effectively a bunch of teenagers in charge. Guess some things are indeed a universal constant. Still, other places like the shuttlebay are being tidied when Murph isn't eating things or people aren't replicating vehicles, so perhaps Janeway is deliberately leaving the quarters and mess hall a wreck as a lesson or something?
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The uniforms use Back To the Future II technology “Jacket Drying. Jacket Fit.”1x09:
- Hum, so the Protostar has "fast charging" capability on top of the regular replenishment for the protowarp drive?
- The uniforms are snazzy. But if Dal found his in the Captain's quarters, why doesn't it have red trim or any rank pips? Or did he pull out whatever was in there and then ask the replicator to come up with a cadet variant in his size, since he and Chakotay are certainly not? Fun how he leaves his boots unbuckled, though.
- I hadn't mentioned how messy the ship has become with effectively a bunch of teenagers in charge. Guess some things are indeed a universal constant. Still, other places like the shuttlebay are being tidied when Murph isn't eating things or people aren't replicating vehicles, so perhaps Janeway is deliberately leaving the quarters and mess hall a wreck as a lesson or something?
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