4000ly in.. What? 5 minutes? An hour? Interesting.
There has to be time travel..
There has to be time travel..
Spoilers ST Prodigy - StarShips & Technology Season 1 Discussion
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If the Proto drive is as fast as Voth Transwarp (60 Ly's per about 10 seconds), then it would be just about 11 minutes (which if we're being fair seems a bit long-ish for the kids to scream).
If its as fast as Quantum Slipstream v2 (10 000 ly's per minute), then just about 24 seconds (that seems more reasonable).
But also, 4000 Ly's for such a burst and the proto-core to go offline seems a bit - meh... then again, it was a first time this drive was activated in a VERY long time it seems and was probably set to a short distance.
Wonder if the proto drive requires dilithium..
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So 11 minutes of screaming is within the realm of believability.
We also don't know how full of gas the Proto-core was at before it got activated.
The opening map suggests that they're now in the Gamma quadrant. This means very little for anyone who doesn't know what quadrant they started in, but it seems to imply to me that they weren't that deep into the DQ, coming from Earth anyway. The distance from DQ to GQ increases as you go away from the galactic core, so on the cosmic scale they were relatively close to the border.
This is kinda okay, as the basic course for Voyager to head home was slowing bringing them closer to the Gamma Quadrant anyway, only since they were generally getting closer to the core by default. That said, I wonder if the Protostar was out in the DQ using Voyager's course as a guide... They start off relatively close to the Hirogen system (wherever THAT is), but the Kazon we see is an outlier. My guess is that they're closer to the Alpha/Beta border with the Delta Quadrant than to Voyager's starting point and Kazon space, and skipped laterally over to Gamma with their super-duper engine.
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This is kinda okay, as the basic course for Voyager to head home was slowing bringing them closer to the Gamma Quadrant anyway, only since they were generally getting closer to the core by default. That said, I wonder if the Protostar was out in the DQ using Voyager's course as a guide... They start off relatively close to the Hirogen system (wherever THAT is), but the Kazon we see is an outlier. My guess is that they're closer to the Alpha/Beta border with the Delta Quadrant than to Voyager's starting point and Kazon space, and skipped laterally over to Gamma with their super-duper engine.
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Wonder if the proto drive requires dilithium..
Only in the sense its CONTAINMENT is maintained by the two warp cores (which use dilithium for regulating M/AM reactions).
Otherwise, I don't think you need M/AM and dilithium for containment because presumably, you just need a power source that's strong enough.
In case of UFP/SF, M/AM and dilithium is the best they could probably come up with for the Protostar (since we know they hadn't done developed their own Tetryon reactors, Thermyonic generators or whatever core the fake USS Dauntless used (all o which VOY had knowledge and scans of).
They'll probably cover this at some point.
Although its possible the proto-drive WILL actually be used by UFP for a long time before it falls out of service in favor of say temporal technology which can open rifts in space and time, so technically, you could easily open up a temporal rift to take you to whatever destination you want without going drastically into the past or future... just set it to take a ship exactly 1 or 2 seconds to emerge on the other side.
In the meantime, the Proto-drive could be used in the proceeding centuries next to Quantum Slipstream v2 for example.
SF's main issue is power generation (which is reliant on M/AM and Dilithium)... not so much as the method of propulsion.
Even in the 32nd century, when UFP held a summit with representatives from ALL 4 quadrants of the Galaxy... it makes you wonder just what method of travel they used to get to UFP/SF HQ... or if most of them were holograms (with some/most hyper-subspace relay stations repaired).
Containment or is it a Capacitor? 2 warp cores chargeing a capacetor to use for a "Warp Jump" beyond typical maximum warp? How can a star run out of energy? if it runs out.. it just gone, its just a power pack..
Probably because each one of these shows (DSC, PIC, LDS, and PRO) take place in separate universes, lol. We see the NCC-1701 and her crew in their TOS versions in PRO, not their DSC/SNW versions, so one could argue that PRO takes place in the TOS-TNG-DS9-VOY Prime universe, while DSC/SNW takes place in the other Prime universe.
Its described as 'Protostar Gravimetric contaiment'.
So, its a containment... not a capacitor (at least not that we know of - though it could potentially act as both).
The Warp cores seem to be helping in maintaining power heavy containment of the Protostar itself (that we know of thus far).
Also, a protostar isn't a 'star'... its more akin to a black hole in how its accruing stellar matter until it has enough to transition into a main sequence star (though some fusion reactions can still happen inside an actual Protostar - prior to it becoming a main sequence star).
So, its possible that in order to get the benefits which allows the ship to jump into TransWarp, it needs to be 'fed' matter... or energy... and if you don't... it just goes dormant.
That's one potential hypothesis of mine.
Another option is that it really doesn't run out of power, but its the USS Protostar itself that can only contain enough energy to push the ship a certain distance in a short time span - so in this sense, it could be acting as a capacitor of sorts too.
Its possible you can go a much further distance, but we hadn't seen the ship's full TransWarp potential probably because its been dormant for a LONG time (possibly for over 20 years), and a bunch of untrained kids are using the ship (so they aren't able to extract the full potential out of it - yet).
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Not to the galactic core, but close to the Gamma/Delta quadrant border.
The display indicated that they started off in the Delta Quadrant, and moved into the Gamma Quadrant, or very close to it.
So, they could still be in the D.Q... just tethering on the edge between the two quadrants... or ARE in the Gamma Quadrant.... in which case, Tars Lamora seems to be fairly close to the Delta and Gamma quadrant border.
It could be close or far away from the Galactic core though.
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I was just being facetious. Although I’d be lying if I didn’t have my own personal head-canon that there’s a second ‘prime’ universe created by CBS in 2017 that’s different from the ‘prime’ universe of TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT/TMP-TNG films.
Well, its not impossible considering the Galactic core is only 44 million km in diameter with a mass of around 4 million suns, plus, the Galactic center as such is thought to span about 10-12 Ly's and has about 10 million suns... which makes it very luminous.
And, the space in ST: Prodigy has a LOT of colorful nebulae, etc... making it quite luminous as such... I suppose its doable.
But, is there any specific reason as to why this needs to be the case?
The presence of a Kazon at Tars Lamora would suggest it might not be near the galactic center... unless they discovered subspace corridors and started using them or had major breakthroughs in FTL.
In that case, I suggest you call the the post-2017 the "First Splinter timeline".I was just being facetious. Although I’d be lying if I didn’t have my own personal head-canon that there’s a second ‘prime’ universe created by CBS in 2017 that’s different from the ‘prime’ universe of TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT/TMP-TNG films.
I think they discovered the Subspace Corridors that existed in the Delta Quadrant.
I HIGHLY doubt the Kazon of all species would have a break through in FTL.
