Spoilers ST Prodigy - StarShips & Technology Season 1 Discussion
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The Rev-12 apparently never used its teleporters in front of the Unwanted, and maybe it’s also a time-ship?
Holo Janeway may consider variable tangibility an upgrade but it seems like Gwyn achieved this upgrade without using onscreen time. Did Gwyn make a breakthrough in emitter technology Starfleet didn’t have when it made HJ or is it a setting she already had?
Holo Janeway may consider variable tangibility an upgrade but it seems like Gwyn achieved this upgrade without using onscreen time. Did Gwyn make a breakthrough in emitter technology Starfleet didn’t have when it made HJ or is it a setting she already had?
The AGT/Visitor/Timeless/Endgame commbadge is in the prime timeline now. And the order of 2380s uniforms and badges is getting even more messy! And the fake Dauntless led to the construction of a similar real Dauntless!
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ENT “Azati Prime” established that Starfleet reproduced the Dauntless class by the 26th century. But it could be argued that the CGI is just a placeholder.
In STO, the replica USS Dauntless entered service in 2410.
I’m pleased that a Starfleet Dauntless-class is now unequivocally canon. Eaglemoss, get cracking, I need a model of that ship!
I think the Dauntless makes a good small Logistics ship, it carries small amounts of cargo and personnel to it's destination, and then flys away.
My first blush reaction would have Admiral Janeway assigned to some project involving advanced FTL designs, owing to her experience bumping into all kinds of better-than-warp options over the years. No doubt someone figured starting with a replica of the Dauntless would be a great starting point to slipstream research, and Janeway commandeered the ship to go rescue Chakotay, who went and disappeared using another ship no doubt assigned to the same project. That all works except for this Dauntless having an NCC reg class.
Spiffy new uniforms, looks like they can easily fit into the Lower Decks family. But DANG, those AGT badge designs just won't die, will they?
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Spiffy new uniforms, looks like they can easily fit into the Lower Decks family. But DANG, those AGT badge designs just won't die, will they?
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I'd like to say that whilst poring over the records of Voyager's encounter with slipstream tech in "Hope and Fear", the SCE concluded that anyone who'd make a slipstream-capable vessel to LOOK like a Starfleet ship (well enough to fool a trained crew) was doing something right. So they replicated the same basic shape and layout, and meshed it with the tech that Voyager adapted to their own warp core. The result was an ACTUAL Starfleet ship that mimics the technology of the original developers had themselves adapted to look like a Starfleet ship. Using the actual name "Dauntless" may have been a step too far... Or one of those cosmic coincidences we just can't explain.
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No, it's fine. It just means the ship has completed the prototype phase and has been approved for fully operational status. The Excelsior was NCC-2000 in Star Trek 6. This never happened to the Defiant because of stock footage needs.
I'm just glad we didn't see Janeway on a Miranda or Excelsior. That would have been really annoying.
And as far as the registry goes...was it stated that this Dauntless was a prototype ship or the first ship of the class? If not, there's no issue with the ship having an NCC prefix.
And as far as the registry goes...was it stated that this Dauntless was a prototype ship or the first ship of the class? If not, there's no issue with the ship having an NCC prefix.
One of the Prodigy show runners did an extensive interview with the gang at TrekMovie.com, and demonstrates that a LOT of forethought went into the world building of the show. The way he explains the uniforms especially makes it sound believable that all the uniform variations we’ve seen so far in the 2380s shows can indeed coexist logically. He also goes into the Dauntless, confirming a lot of what we’ve been speculating here. A good read for us tech nerds:
https://trekmovie.com/2022/02/03/in...s-timelines-janeways-combadges-and-much-more/
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https://trekmovie.com/2022/02/03/in...s-timelines-janeways-combadges-and-much-more/
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Nice Find!
Finally noticed the boots on the helmsman- cool! Plus, very intrigued by her fingerless gloves. I mused that the only reason for gloves might be an interface wearable that somehow speeds up response time in piloting- but now I remember Jadzia Dax once said cold hands were a peculiarity of the Trill.
That's a deep cut if true - but given the above interview I wouldn't be surprised if that were the reason!
The front of Arturis' Dauntless didn't have a viewscreen, just a set of additional stations. Here there seems to be additional doors and PROBABLY a viewscreen, but likely not a giant honkin' window given our limited of the outside.
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The front of Arturis' Dauntless didn't have a viewscreen, just a set of additional stations. Here there seems to be additional doors and PROBABLY a viewscreen, but likely not a giant honkin' window given our limited of the outside.
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Beta-canon, but it occurs to me that while behaving the new Dauntless as Janeway’s ride is awesome and fairly explainable and all, this is a great chance to incorporate the Vesta class into the main Trek universe too. It’s a popular and honestly awesome design that’s screaming for a real appearance. Also slipstream, and she even has a similar profile to the Protostar to begin with!
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I just noticed that the name and registry number is off-centre and now I'll never be able to unsee it.
In the old days, Treknologists used to refer to "warp highways", regions of space where warp drive was far more efficient/faster than normal due to a variety of factors. This explained how, for example, the Enterprise could be at the galactic edge in WNMGB, but still manage to reach remote Federation outposts with its warp drive crippled.
No. There was a sequence in Moral Star Part 1 when the kids were hatching their plan and were shown working on it that Gwyn was seen working on Janeway's holomatrix on the bridge, and HJ mentioned: 'that's one heck of an upgrade'.
At any rate, the ability for holo Janeway to become solid and have some basic fighting skills is hardly a novelty for Starfleet holo technology in the 24th century.
After all, holograms on holodecks in 24th century were always able to interact with real life people inside the holodeck... Lewis Zimmerman was simply the first one to bring that feature to the outside world through his EMH's who had holo projectors installed in sickbay (and later on as we saw, Starfleet expanded holo-emitters to every deck starting with the EMH Mark II).
The Doctor (EMH 1) on Voyager (which Predates the Protostar holo Janeway by about a decade) already had the ability to allow matter to pass through him, or for him to interact with matter (essentially the abilty to become solid or not at will).
Gwyn was already trained by her father in ship operations (the way she described herself to holo Janeway the first time was more akin to an OPS officer - like Kim was on VOY - essentially, he knew his stuff in a LOT of fields), and she got familiar with holograms in Episode 8 (the time anomaly episode) where the kids had to work together to carry a chicken, a fox and grains over to the other side of the river using a boat).
Its not impossible that Gwyn would have gotten the idea from there to allow Holo Janeway similar interactivity with real people (its also possible that even though Janeway was able to interact with a tool in engineering during that temporal mishap, she might NOT have had the ability to interact with PEOPLE - just certain inanimate objects).
Oh and in regards holo Janeway fighting... maybe she wasn't programmed with basic fighting skills, but more to the point had common sense to use her new found ability to interact with people to her advantage (and she already has access to the ship's database, so she'd likely be able to access basic fighting skills on her own and incorporate them into her program - after all, she IS a training advisor).
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Reviving thread! And pointing out the establishment of the USS Protostar's length at a tight 139m. Should be interesting if and when Janeway's USS Dauntless finds them; the original NX-01-A Dauntless was around 205m long, and the new example should be in that neighborhood IMO.
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The Eaglemoss models of the USS Titan and USS Cerritos came out really well. I can’t wait for an XL-sized USS Protostar and big “regular” USS Dauntless. The Protostar in particular is a sleek and beautiful ship imho, I want to swoosh it around the room!
