Perhaps a Daimon rank can be purchased?
Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x07 - "First Con-tact"
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Perhaps a Daimon rank can be purchased?
I disagree. Pog's transporter skills were extremely important to the plot.
Yep! As soon as I saw them chasing the pie, I thought, "Oh, they've found the transporters."
Once again, this show hits it out of the park. As someone else said, they used animation beautifully to show a truly cool looking species. Plus, those crystals looked like I could reach through and grab one!
Poor Dal. I wonder how old he was when Nandi picked him up - and where and under what circumstances - and how old he was when she sold him. Plus, being raised by her for awhile explains a lot about his lack of trust and general attitude.
I loved the look of the new aliens.
just thinking that she probably knows something about his home planet and his parents.
Very plausible! We already saw the Diviner employed a random Kazon to fetch him children, maybe Nandi kidnapped Dal and made him think that he was abandoned/orphaned? It would make her even more vile, and she’s already so very horrible, having sold a kid into child slavery.
I love this series and loved this episode.
My only qualm is (like others have mentioned before) is how they handle distances. Last week they traveled 4000 light years but galaxy wise, that’s not a big distance. So that means we started near the gamma quad already. I wish they would have jumped something like 20K light years.
One thing I love though was how they are now using chimerium which was first mentioned in Trek novels written by the amazing David Mack. Absolutely LOVED this.
My only qualm is (like others have mentioned before) is how they handle distances. Last week they traveled 4000 light years but galaxy wise, that’s not a big distance. So that means we started near the gamma quad already. I wish they would have jumped something like 20K light years.
One thing I love though was how they are now using chimerium which was first mentioned in Trek novels written by the amazing David Mack. Absolutely LOVED this.
Some good things in the episode for sure. Overall enjoyable. Loved the music crystals. Dal & Gwyn on equal footing. More info on Protostar 1.0. Still visually stunning.
But some things did bug me a bit. Like what is Dal's mentor doing 4,000 light years away? How did she get there? Seems like this episode would make more sense before they went ZOOOOM.
Plus, how dies she contact the Diviner? Isn't 4,000 light years a bit out of communication range for a ship? How would he even catch up? (which presumably is where they are going). It would take years, yes?
Not to mention going from transporting Murf outside the ship to perfectly doing the crystal.
Yes, I know it is a kid's show.
But some things did bug me a bit. Like what is Dal's mentor doing 4,000 light years away? How did she get there? Seems like this episode would make more sense before they went ZOOOOM.
Plus, how dies she contact the Diviner? Isn't 4,000 light years a bit out of communication range for a ship? How would he even catch up? (which presumably is where they are going). It would take years, yes?
Not to mention going from transporting Murf outside the ship to perfectly doing the crystal.
Yes, I know it is a kid's show.
Trying to get rich like any good Ferengi.
Dal's gonna grow up to be Starlord.
Arridor and Kol got through the wormhole originally when they tried bargaining for it... it was their expeditionary mission to ascertain whether the wormhole was stable or not (the ENT-D shuttle with Geordi and Data did the same - only difference is, Geordi and Data got out of there after discernign the exit point of the wormhole was unstable seeing how it was where it wasn't supposed to be).
Once they discovered the wormhole was worthless because it was unstable, the information was quickly disseminated and even the Ferengi withdrew from those negotiations.
But as I said, the Barzan wormhole's AQ end destabilized when Arridor and Kol used a subspace signal to disrupt VOY's tractor beam.
That happened 7 years after the Barzan Wormhole was first seen in TNG, and Ferengi females weren't exactly allowed to leave Ferenginar.
Would Nandi have had the opportunity to leave Ferenginar even covertly and get her hands on a D'kora class starship in the process?
The other female who fled Ferenginar in secret and got lobe extensions (the one who fell in love with Quark) had to do all kinds of things in secret and not draw attention to herself (while pretending to be male).
It seems more like Nandi would have had better chance of leaving Ferenginar and getting her hands on a D'Kora class starship sometime during Ds9 events and flying through the Bajoran Wormhole to the Gamma Quadrant and eventually getting to the Delta Quadrant near the Gamma border.
Otherwise, if that D'Kora class ship had a crew originally and indeed went through the Barzan Wormhole, they were idiots in that case... and I don't think they would have risked going through that wormhole not knowing where they would end up.
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in terms of long range subspace communications, that was more or less solved in Voyager, especially if they are near the Delta Quadrant border. Between the Hirogen communications array already in the Delta and innovations from Project Watson, they were able to establish communications WAY beyond 4,000 lightyears. My guess is that tech has already disseminated in the years since, especially with Starfleet and the Ferengi continuing to advance into that territory. If anyone can scan the Galaxy for leads on profit, it’s the Ferengi.
As for what the Diviner will do next once he has the Protostar’s coordinates, we will see next week! Bounty hunters, Trojan horse viruses via subspace communications, both are possible and used before in Trek.
An interesting tidbit from last week’s episode author/series producer Aaron Waltke re: Dal’s familiarity with the Federation:
Aaron J. Waltke said:
Not a bad episode. Typical Ferengi villain plot twist, if you have any familiarity with them, but she was voice acted perfectly. A pretty cool alien species. Ship models were on point. Definitely get a lot of Star Trek 2009 vibes with this show but that isn't necessarily a bad thing as the 09 JJ film was the best of the trilogy.
I hovered between 8 and 9 on the scale this week. Went with 9/10 or an A- B+ score.
I hovered between 8 and 9 on the scale this week. Went with 9/10 or an A- B+ score.
The General Order 1 text was taken from the Federation:The First 150 Years book
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1481689268561006595
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1481689268561006595
And not just that, but the book was based on McCoy's lines in "Bread and Circuses(TOS)" so both are built upon actual screen dialogue.
Nandi said that she sold Dal into slavery on Tars Lamora. I wonder if that's how she got ahold of him in the first place...
As for how Nandi got all the way out there: It seems clear that her ship is, shall we say, in less than optimal working order (she's not even using the real bridge). It's probably an old, decommissioned ship that she somehow managed to steal and limp her way to the GQ on her own. Probably the best she could do.
As for how Nandi got all the way out there: It seems clear that her ship is, shall we say, in less than optimal working order (she's not even using the real bridge). It's probably an old, decommissioned ship that she somehow managed to steal and limp her way to the GQ on her own. Probably the best she could do.
Which again begs the question, HOW did she end up there to begin with.
The Barzan Wormhole would present an option in the 7 years after it was seen on TNG (before the DQ end was destabilized)... and that's ONLY if she wanted to leave EVERYTHING behind in pursuit of her own personal profits (because I don't see what the point or incentive for other Ferengi would be to end up in an unknown part of the galaxy with no way of getting back and register their 'success' with other Ferengi - though Arridor and Kol were certainly happy to remain where they were and away from their financial superiors who would take away their profits if they deem it necessary).
The other option is the Bajoran Wormhole at some point during Ds9. She could have fled Ferenginar in secret pretending to be a man, and go ahold of one of the Ferengi ships that possibly traded with the Dominion. But here's the problem with that... Dominion space and the Bajoran Wormhole are nowhere near the Gamma/Delta border... Nandi would need DECADES just to reach the Gamma/Delta border (that's with relatively high Warp)... though its possible she found subspace corridors which took the Damsel there.
Trouble is, we know very little about Nandi... though, her behavior is that of a typical profit driven and highly greedy Ferengi... so her selling Dal into slavery wasn't surprising in the least... the Ferengi aren't exactly above that (its either that or because he wasn't her biological son - but I'm not sure that would have made a difference).
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Rule of Acquisition #111: Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.
So it would seem that Nandi selling out Dal would be par for the course in Ferengi society, regardless of biology.
(So much for the "Ferengi never practice slavery" argument, eh?)
That being said, it is aksi possible that Nandi - being female - feels obligated to out-Ferengi the Ferengi. Meaning, she tries extra hard to keep to Ferengi traditions, kind of like Worf trying especially hard to act Klingon because he wasn't raised as one. So while most Ferengi parents might not openly sell out their kids (it seems clear that Ishka, for example, would never have done that with Quark or Rom, because their family was a loving one), Nandi feels justified in doing so because she has something to prove.
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