Truth is a perfect defense.Liable - l-i-a-b-l-e. Liable.
Truth is a perfect defense.Liable - l-i-a-b-l-e. Liable.
They don't have to do anything.They pretty much have to do TOS Redux.
Star Wars designs hold up a hell of a lot better than TOS's.Rogue One had the overbridge on the Death Star look exactly the same, just with better lighting effects, 40 years later. Same for Yavin's Rebel command center. Time difference isn't the same for sets like it is for actors. You can recreate a set that you can't do with an actor (short of, again, expensive CGI).
So I view it as a conscious design change by the producers, and fans are free to have fan explanations to explain those changes. Nothing wrong with that.
Rogue One had the overbridge on the Death Star look exactly the same, just with better lighting effects, 40 years later. Same for Yavin's Rebel command center. Time difference isn't the same for sets like it is for actors. You can recreate a set that you can't do with an actor (short of, again, expensive CGI).
The actor change can't be helped (barring extremely expensive CGI). The bridge set can, and they made a choice not to recreate it.
...and because it's a fantasy set A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away, and there's nothing to say that it should look anything like an extrapolation of any possible future. Trek is a different thing, and I suspect Roddenberry would shake his head in bemusement at some fans' desire to square-peg the franchise into a stiflingly retrograde 1960s vision of the 23rd century. The broad strokes are there, the details are just scenery.Star Wars designs hold up a hell of a lot better than TOS's.
Exactly. What was attempted to do in the 60s of extrapolating a future for humanity was not meant to be binding in anyway. But, what fandom did was latch on so tightly as to make any potential changes nearly impossible without some measure of explanation. Which basically means that the details have become more important than the story.Trek is a different thing, and I suspect Roddenberry would shake his head in bemusement at some fans' desire to square-peg the franchise into a stiflingly retrograde 1960s vision of the 23rd century. The broad strokes are there, the details are just scenery.
They don't have to make another series at all.I don’t know that they have to. It’s likely they will though.
I'm not really interested in what Roddenberry would have thought, as with all due respect to his work in creating the franchise, it moved beyond him long ago. He didn't like the TOS films like Wrath of Khan for example.Because it would be like making the modern Batman films look like the Adam West series. The TOS bridge was always impressionistic anyway, with blinky lights flashing on and off in random sequence that served no logical purpose as any possible kind of instrumentation. Once they had a budget in TMP, they jumped at the chance to revise and reinterpret the vision. The 1960s scenery made appearances in deliberately nostalgic scenes and tongue-in-cheek anniversary specials aimed at fans but it would never cut it in a modern HD high-budget series chasing a broader audience.
Star Wars can get away with it because...
...and because it's a fantasy set A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away, and there's nothing to say that it should look anything like an extrapolation of any possible future. Trek is a different thing, and I suspect Roddenberry would shake his head in bemusement at some fans' desire to square-peg the franchise into a stiflingly retrograde 1960s vision of the 23rd century. The broad strokes are there, the details are just scenery.
Heck, it was Gene's Vision™, that the TOS Adventures as we saw on TV were exaggerated, not intended to be the exact way they happened. I think the TMP novel even had them as in-universe stories?Exactly. What was attempted to do in the 60s of extrapolating a future for humanity was not meant to be binding in anyway. But, what fandom did was latch on so tightly as to make any potential changes nearly impossible without some measure of explanation. Which basically means that the details have become more important than the story.
A minor refit mentioned in dialogue before the ship is handed off to Kirk seems reasonable enough, and I don't know why people would be against that.
Smart.He didn't like the TOS films like Wrath of Khan for example.
Yup.Heck, it was Gene's Vision™, that the TOS Adventures as we saw on TV were exaggerated, not intended to be the exact way they happened. I think the TMP novel even had them as in-universe stories?
Pretty shortly the new continuity will begin overwriting the TOS version of the Kirk era. Within a few years, I'd say.
While there might be fan interest in this sort of thing, I'm not sure why the producers/writers would be interested in doing this. Unlike the Pike captaincy, this period is already crowded and would be creatively stifling trying to write new stories in for a full fledged tv show.I suspect we will see a series run concurrently with TOS, with episodes set in between TOS episodes. And if they want to do a direct follow up to a TOS episode they will just so a "Previously On" with the original 1960s footage just like they did on Discovery with "The Cage". The opportunity to do a 5 year mission launch episode, and a proper TOS series finale is too tempting to pass up.
Wow Enterprise ended up being very necessary after allIf only Trek had some kind of temporal war with which to explain all the discrepancies...
Oh wait.
I'm not really interested in what Roddenberry would have thought, as with all due respect to his work in creating the franchise, it moved beyond him long ago. He didn't like the TOS films like Wrath of Khan for example.
Ironic you mention the 1960s Batman since the Schumacher films arguably made Batman films look like the West series, stylistically anyway.
Regardless, I'm not advocating that Strange New Worlds use the TOS bridge. A minor refit mentioned in dialogue before the ship is handed off to Kirk seems reasonable enough, and I don't know why people would be against that.
The TOS bridge can be updated to include meaningful LCARS type displays. As it was, the movie bridge wasn't much better and actually looks more dated than the TOS ones due to the Apple II era wireframe graphics on the CRT displays, etc.
But I think they shouldn't go into the TOS era and start overwriting that. Go to the movie era if they must.
While there might be fan interest in this sort of thing, I'm not sure why the producers/writers would be interested in doing this. Unlike the Pike captaincy, this period is already crowded and would be creatively stifling trying to write new stories in for a full fledged tv show.
Or ignoring it.As such, fans are left with their own explanations like swappable bridge modules, "desktop" themes, or outright timeline changes.
It doesn't feel like the 60s to me.That's pretty much what they've done isn't it? Schumacher Batman-style.
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